SSI took away my rights and made me too poor to survive

Mainestategop ^ | Brian Ball

[mainestategop]

The following is an email from Mark Nugent of Sacramento california who at the age of 16 was forced into the mental health system against his will, branded mentally ill, stripped of his trust fund by his liberal parents and forced on SSI.

The SSI program was originally intended for those liberals branded too old or too stupid to work. It pays very little, about $695 a month and to receive it one must not hold assets or property worth more than $2000. 

People with disabilities who receive SSI [Supplemental Security Income] payments continue to be the nation’s poorest citizens. The average annual income of a single individual receiving SSI payments was $7,436 far below the federal poverty level. SSI recipient's income is sixty percent less than the federal poverty level SOMETIMES EVEN LESS!!! Since the first Priced Out study was published in 1998, the value of SSI payments compared to median income has declined precipitously – from 24.4% of median income in 1998 to 18.7% in 2010 while national average rents have risen over 50% during the same time period. 

SSI recipients are usually forced on the program against their will by mean liberal relatives and government workers in order to control and manipulate them and steal their assets. Government workers often exploit SSI recipients and subjugate them to humiliation, unnecesary auditing, forced treatment, captivity in group homes or institutions and are often homeless.

The vast majority of SSI recipients are homeless due to low incomes as well as abusive payees. The Representative Payee program manages the majority of SSI funds for victims. The payees are often mean, rude and abusive and steal from the recipients or "beneficiary" as they are labeled. The government often permits this and does nothing about it since they are all lazy bums anyway.

In 2010, as a national average, a person receiving SSI needed to pay 172% of their monthly income to rent a modest one-bedroom unit. In the 12 years since the first Priced Out was published, the amount of monthly SSI income needed to rent a modest one-bedroom unit has increased an astonishing 62 percent. People with disabilities were also priced out of smaller studio/efficiency units, which averaged 99% of monthly SSI. In the end of 2016, those numbers haven't improved.

So it goes with Mark Nugent who wrote to us in response to our many articles cataloging the abuse and failure of our government and the true evil nature of the SSI program and social security, perhaps the only other program other than Obamacare that has failed more than any other grandiose welfare program that Democrats have hashed out since the dictatorship of FDR.

Dear Brian

My name is Mark Nugent, I am 27 years old and live in Portland Oregon. I am originally from The Sacramento area, I used to live in Tulare where I grew up. I was born in Tulare and moved to Sacromento When I was 15. I used to be well liked and have lots of friends in Tulare but when we got to Sacro, that changed. I was picked on a lot. My parents and teachers forced me to go to a psychiatrist.

They told me that I had Asperger's syndrome and that I had Bipolar disorder. I was diagnosed solely because I was picked on because of tbe fights I got into. The psychiatrist and my parents blamed me exclusively for all the problems that happened. My doctor was Dr. Guohua Xia. They made no mention of the problems being recent and that I made many accomplishments and had many friends in Tulare. Dr Xia just told me, "Oh, well do you have friends now? No? Then you obviously are the problem!"

Guohua Xia always had negative things to say to me. When I got picked on, he told me that it was my fault for not socializing and for having anti-social behavior. He never said what that behavior was or why it was my fault he just said it was and he said it was also my fault that the meds he forced me to take made me sleepy and prevented me from studying and getting good grades.

Before being medicated, I got good grades. I was an A, B student then I started getting Ds and Cs. I was forced to take it by the teachers and parents.

I was on six different types of medication of Bipolar and autism. Disorders I really don't have. I was on Seroquel, Zyprexa, Depakote and a few other drugs I don't remember.

Also, my parents always took Xia's side against me. They argued that professionals who are licensed do not make mistakes and know better than minors who are totally nuts. When I brought up that Xia was educated in a medical school in Communist China they laughed at me,.

I was told by Dr. Xia that was unable to work and that I probably wouldn't make it in the real world. He recommended that I be forced on SSI and be placed either in a residential care facility or a boarding care home. I freaked out when I heard it. My parents were delighted with the idea.

I was not allowed to work at a job at summer time or anytime. My parents told me I couldn't handle it "because the doctor said so..." I was devastated. I was also told i couldn't work because they wanted me to be on SSI instead and everyone on SSI can't work.

When I turned 17 I ran away from home and hitchhiked to Denver Colorado. I didn't get very far however. I didn't know my social security number and no one in my family wanted to help me. I was told that I had to go back to California. I spent 6 months in Denver. Nobody could help me since I did not have my social and any money. When it got cold I was compelled to return. By this time I was 18 and was of legal age so they couldn't do to much damage to me then. But that doesn't mean they didn't...

When I got back I was forced back on SSI, I was forced back to Brainefit to see Dr Xia who proceeded to make up the worst imaginable lies about me such as that my being homeless in Denver was not because of abuse but because "I was mentally incompetint and unable to care for myself" and put down that I needed a guardian. He also chided me for my personal beliefs.

Well, I learned my SSA number and before they could file guardianship I ran away again this time to Portland Oregon where Ive been since. I went there because SSI was supplemented and to get away from my dad. also mental health services aren't as powerful as they are in California.

That and the fact that I had no education and a psyche record that would keep me from getting a job. I had learned when I was in Denver that the government shares info and private stuff about people with corporations and that just by seeing a doctor and being on SSI was enough to get me away from any decent job!

To top it off, the meds damaged my liver and my brain. I now suffer from ADD as a result from the different meds. I also have diabetes, poor eyesight from the Zyprexa and premature hairloss and balding. I tried to sue the drug companies but I only got a little bit of money. I was homeless for 3 years in the streets of Portland and Eugene before I got housing. I got my GED and I was able to get a part time job at Safeway but it was seasonal. I can only get seasonal employment and temp jobs like Labor ready or grocery and retail. People are reluctant to hire me since I am on SSI.

Dear SSA regulation writers, SSI RESOURCE LIMITS ARE JUST ANOTHER WAY TO DEGRADE THE DISABLED.AND AMERICANS IN GENERAL. PLEASE STOP TRYING TO HELP US! YOU'VE DONE ENOUGH DAMAGE

AND NOW INFO ON DR GUOHUA XIA courtesy of the FBI and FOIA

 Before moving to this once great nation built on the foundations of capitalism and Judeo Christian faith, Dr. Guohua Xia was born and raised in China and was an active member of the Communist youth league. According to the FBI, Guohua Xia received the Medal of Lenin at the age of 14 for ratting on dissident relatives involved in illegal "subversive activity." Xia was rewarded with a scholarship to Peking University. He chose to study for a career in psychiatry in The Beijing School of medicine located at PU.

FBI files show His post graduate studies and work included working at the notorious labor camps including the notorious Shayang Re-education Through Labor camp in Hubei Providence. Xia's early duties included data collection and interviewing victims and aiding in their "rehabilitation." Among his many victims included participants of the Tianamen square riots.

Guohua Xia desired to live in the united states not to enjoy our freedoms and our prosperity but to destroy it. Under ideological exclusion provision to prevent communists from entering America to promote subversive activity, Xia was originally not permitted to enter. However, thanks to Former President and pervert Bill Clinton the law was weakened to allow Chinese subversives like Xia to enter and create havoc. This at the behest of his Chinese associates.

By the way, had Hillary Clinton been elected even more of these subversives would've been allowed to immigrate along with scores of thousands of Jihadist Muslims.

Guohua Xia studied at  University of Nebraska-Lincoln in Marriage therapy and counseling. He then helped found Brainefit, a psychiatric Clinic located outside Sacramento which in addition to proscribing toxic drugs and forcing people on SSI, specialize in magnetic therapy and accupuncture.

FBI data on Dr Guohua Xia is limited due to the Clinton Administration's interference which terminated monitoring of possible subversives from China and other countries. There are now thousands of communist subversives from Asia and former Soviet Bloc countries residing and working amongst us, many of them creating hapless victims like Mark Nugent. This the result of Bill Clinton's legacy.

[tophat9000]

Don’t necessarily exactly agree with them on SSI I was on SSI starting at 18 as I was disabled at fourteen...
However i was able to get a job an get off with in a few years .. then got into trade school in computers and now make a nice six-figure income

[GraceG]

[ Also, my parents always took Xia’s side against me. They argued that professionals who are licensed do not make mistakes and know better than minors who are totally nuts ]

Totalitarians of EVERY STRIPE seem to follow the whole “Appeal to Authority” argument every single effing time, even when they themselves are being marched up against the wall where they will take their last breath.

[mainestategop]

That's great! Its very hard to get off SSI I'm told. Even harder to get a job. these days government is able to share private info with any group on the planet including big companies. Most people I know stuck on SSI can't get a job. Kyle Weissman who helps me run my blog and other odd ends had the same problem and was denied work at an office in Westwood because of his poor credit rating and because he had been on forced SSI by his abusive relatives. He had the same problem applying for other jobs including a position at Michael's Crafts in Century city!

I am very pleased to hear you could get off that and get a six figure job! It must've been hard.

[jsanders2001]

> They argued that professionals who are licensed do not make mistakes and know better

The whole problem with liberal educated idiots and their whole lot summed up. They assume (and the other members of their religion) that if they attend a university and take a course for a semester or two that they are therefore "experts and know better than "you". I am considered an "expert" on certain topics and have testified in court rooms on them but the first thing I will tell you about ANY expert is that they can always be wrong. The second thing is you can't take a course or training and consider yourself an expert. Without real life experience (and lots of it) all the book stuff means absolutely nothing more than some random head knowledge that you may or may not have forgotten. I have seen experts make statement that made me say, "really"? This guy has to be lying and paid a lot to sway the jury. Experts is almost a term I wish we're removed from' the dictionaries because is implies too much and the liberals worship their own version of that book and fool others with their re-definitions from it.

[MeganC]

I had a different experience with government social workers and fortunately it didn’t include forced medications. Still, it remains a formative experience for me and it left a mark. I am no longer very trusting of police (although our local sheriff’s department is wonderful!) and I am absolutely opposed to the unchecked and unlimited absolute powers wielded by family court judges and social workers.

The KGB would have been jealous of the power these people have.

[BeadCounter]

If I lived in Egypt, I’d much rather live under Sisi or Mubarak than the Muslim Brotherhood.

[fruser1]

The great government “safety net”.

Get gov out of the charity business.

[jimnm]

He sounds like the might actually be mentally ill given his six month and then three year homeless stretches when he would have qualified for housing although the problem might have been going to the psychiatrist in the first place. Generally, going to a psychiatrist is not a good idea.

People on SSI earn low income and are eligible for section 8 housing, food stamps, and medicaid. They can also work up to approximately what they earn off SSI. Some states (like California) give a small top up as well. It’s a little hard to feel too sorry for them which is why they always focus on the small direct federal cash component of their welfare.

That said, I would never want to be on SSI. I know two siblings on it who are really just too lazy to want to work and want to spend their lives as an ‘artists’ while also using drugs. They’re dependent bums but they makes full use of all his benefits (SSI, food stamps, section 8 housing, and medicaid). They tried working a few times very briefly but they would rather us working folk support them.

Incidentally, it was going to a psychiatrist in the first place that set them on this path because the psychiatrist made them aware of it and all the people they met in group therapy were on it. In order to get SSI they faked crazy. Its infuriating to the taxpayers that have to support people like this and there are a lot of them.

[thoughtomator]

Modern psychiatry is a organized, industrial-scale crime against humanity dressed up as a pseudo-science.

If there’s a person in the field who isn’t a moral monstrous horror with severe mental defects themselves, I haven’t heard of them.

[NetAddicted]

Bkmk

[apillar]

That's great! Its very hard to get off SSI I'm told. Even harder to get a job. these days government is able to share private info with any group on the planet including big companies

Not that hard if you're willing to cheat the system, here in rural West Virginia I know of several people (unfortunately one is a nephew), who "gamed" the system with the help of "assembly line" law offices and unscrupulous doctors to get on SSI in the first place. Now they are not only collecting a easy $800 a month (plus foodstamps, free insurance etc.) but they are still working under the table for cash, and in the case of the nephew have a nice house, and vehicles (even a motorboat) which he keeps in his live-in girlfriends name to avoid SSI tracing them back to him.

[mythenjoseph]

Very simple solution to all of this...keep any funding of this sort locally....get all of these agencies from afar out of the micro-managing of children....open up reform schools....old age homes....and every other thing that used to address these every day events. When you get the $ incentive out and remove 100’s of thousands of paper pushing union government employees you will see a real change. And smack the kid in the back of the head and tell him to sit down and shut up....and the simple phrase of “If I didn’t care about you why would i bother to correct you”....then just watch the thought process.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

They argued that professionals who are licensed do not make mistakes and know better

Were that even partially true, companies who offer malpractice insurance would have gone broke long ago.

[catnipman]

i searched the internet every which way i could think of and found zero information to support any of this other than that guohua xia exists.

it makes zero sense that someone who claims they made c’s and d’s in school and the rest of the claimed background could have written the claimed “email” with near-perfect grammar, spelling and coherency. that email was written by someone with a college-level education.

[Nifster]

Sometimes true but don’t kid yourself mental illness does exist and those who need help the most often are the ones
Telling you that every one else is wrong

[tophat9000]

No. This is back in 74.. when I got out of high school.. because I was physically handicapped. ..ampumtee..i got ssi.. but i went and applys for jobs... got a job as a cashier in a self service gas station...i worked miscellaneous jobs like that cashier fast food stuff like that got my real estate license tried that got my stock broker’s license tried that just sells I suck at sales.. then went to computer School 1979... got out and got a job as a bench Tech 6.50 hour starting out which was still low.. and just work my way up in the industry over the years to senior network engineer/ Network architect ... still no college degree just high school education and tech school

And yes many times early on even in the computer field I was told flat to my face I wouldn’t be hired because it was an amputee ..things like field service gigs which I finally got into... ...for one job doing software I was told they wouldn’t hire me because they thought I wouldn’t be able to type fast enough

[minnesota_bound]

My younger sister gets $805 SSI payment each month.
$80 of that is from the state is a supplement for food.
The state tried to take that away from her saying she did not have a separate kitchen from the house she rents a room in. The owner lives there. Main floor and upstairs each have a full kitchen. The basement opens to back yard.

$80 bucks... the state waste millions on “light rail” and bike lanes and everything else while failing basic stuff like fixing the roads and teaching kids.

She fought with the state and then contacted of all people Al Franken (stole election). The state backed off. She nows has the $80 to use for food.

[mainestategop]

Well... They are eligable for Section 8 and stuff but Immigrants are first in line. Also, a lot of these places they do put them in are nasty. One person who was a victim of SSI told me of how he was in a section 8 apartment in Vancouver Washington just outside of Portland OR and it wasn't a home, it was a joke. Bed bugs, cockroaches and nasty neighbors. Everyday the police were there, everyday there was drama.

He wasn't allowed to move out. His payee threatened to cut off his allowence if he did. In the end the city of Vancouver condemned the building and kicked everyone out. So he had to wait yet another year or two while Julio and his 8 kids can get everything right away.

[mainestategop]

Oh... Well its a lot different now than in 74. Far worse.