I will post some links for you later. People are clueless.
Is there not much C++ work in OMA or LNK? It seems to be booming in other technologies.
“Take him to Detroit”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g09GtnWdBjc
I’ve worked there. It all depends. Look at the work location. The northern suburbs are nice. Make sure that you can go from home to work without passing through bad areas.
I just passed up an lucrative offer in a city.. it’s crime ridden and I would need to live far away to sleep safe. It crossed my mind, but when your neighbors break stuff, you can’t have top talent. I can’t make anything great, if I’m fighting for my life.
"Last night I went to sleep in Detroit city … "
Truly a great artist and a classic song.
Lived in Detroit Metro for 15 years.
If you are into outdoor sports, it is ideal.
Hunting, fishing, boating are all top notch.
Weather not great. Spring is two to four weeks later than Cincinnati type climes. Winter two to four weeks earlier.
It is not a bad place to live overall. Stay out of urban areas you are not familiar with and it could be Anytown, USA.
We lived “Downriver”. Grosse Ile specifically. Better home prices than Northside but further away from fancy shopping. Had a boat dock in the back yard with access to Lake Erie.
A buddy has a house for sale right now at 30050 Bayview, Grosse Ile, MI on Zillow.com for $899,000.
You can buy a waterfront house starting around $250,000+-.
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If I was younger, I’d have done it eight years ago. In 2008, the average price of a house sold was $8,000. It’s the new frontier. People are buying vacant lots & farming them.
Also, Michigan has gone Right-To-Work which will help the economy and cut out red tape if you buy an old place.
Plus, you’re close to Canada when the time comes to be a refugee!
Born and raised there and return regularly to visit family. It’s really very nice in the northern suburbs, and winters aren’t too bad. Lived in Minnesota for 20 years and would take a Michigan winter anytime — at least the snow melts frequently. Royal Oak, Troy, Bloomfield Hills, etc. — all nice places. And it really is a beautiful state. People are nice, too.
In investing, always buy the low cost investment which is usually the investment no one else is paying attention to.
I think Detroit is a grand opportunity. It is in ruins, but that is part of the area, not the entire area. NO one is paying attention to Detroit.
Parts of the metro area I am sure are new and developing.
I have a friend that just went to the south eastern area near the water. She loves it.
There is (or maybe was) a site called topix, where you could access comments from people on most any neighborhood or city.
If I were you I’d start by deciding how far I’m willing to commute, then draw a circle, then check out the neighborhoods. Remember that even a mid-sized city will have “good” neighborhoods in the reach of the miscreants in the “bad” neighborhoods.
If it’s a job I didn’t want to pass up, I’d consider renting an apartment for a year, just in case things don’t work out, and to have time to explore and talk to residents.
Presuming here that you don’t mind snow, I hear there’s some up in Michigan...
Detroit is an excellent training ground to prepare for the Zombie Apocalypse.
When I was an explorer we went canoeing in Canada. On our way back we stayed at the home of our scout leader’s parents in Crosse Point. It was really beautiful.
Best to visit your prospective place of employment first. Yeah there are communities outside of downtown that are nice, but there are some areas near downtown that are still war zones
I see others are raving about the weather, and it’s true that last few years’ winters have been mostly mild, but I expect this cycle will end. Winters can be nasty there.
Detroit politics have historically been notoriously corrupt. Maybe they’ve changed for the better but I doubt it. Heavy Muslim communities in Dearborn and Hamtramck.
Near, yes; TO, never. There are many places to live near Detroit, although Dearborn is no longer one of them.
Look north of Detroit proper. Not necessarily Wayne County.
You don’t have to live in Detroit. I live in Hazel Park (affectionately nicknamed “Hazeltucky”). I can see 8 Mile Road from my back window, but I’m surrounded by gun-toting rednecks. Good folks, mostly. You can buy a house here for well under $100,000.00. The farther north you go, the more you’ll pay.
I live in a north-of-Detroit suburb (Sterling Heights). I’ve lived here for almost 30 years. It’s been a great city to live in, very low crime per capita.
Facts:
- Yes, there’s still areas to avoid outside of the immediate downtown area.
- It’s non-downtown areas of Detroit that are still full of blight
- As soon as you get outside the Detroit border there’s some fantastic suburbs
- You won’t believe the amazing homes in Gross Point, immediately outside Detroit to the east (on the lake)
- It’s a culturally diverse environment, while Dearborn is very Islamic, Sterling Heights is full of Iraqi Christians (Chaldean)
- Avoid Flint
- Downtown Detroit is a sport hot spot; Lions/Tigers/Red Wings....and now the Pistons are returning there
- Downtown Detroit has been recognized as a food mecca, any type of food is there
- Downtown Detroit not what you think, downtown San Fran is far worse
- Summers are nice and warm, not too hot
- Winters need a 4 wheel drive vehicle
- The lakes are great to take advantage of; boating in summer, hockey in winter
- Michigan is a huge hunting and fishing state
- West Michigan is great in the summer, you’d think you’re in Cali (minus palm trees!), sandy beaches, etc
- Home prices are rising, the area has easily come off the bottom, still very affordable
- 90% of the crime comes from a couple of zip codes
I suggest you get on Google Earth, if an area looks like crap, it probably is. There are some areas of Detroit that look very green from satellite, which is because the homes have been removed (nature returning), entire blocks now may just have a single home....but many blocks still have abandoned homes yet to be removed.
Last of all, the City now has a budget surplus, people are moving back. I find myself in Detroit far more often than in the past and I’ve even considered moving downtown myself (just other family reasons not to).
Hope that helps!
Get going! it is time for an adventure.