Posted on 08/29/2017 5:07:42 AM PDT by RummyChick
I think the answer has to be somewhere in between ordering everyone to evacuate and telling everyone to shelter in place. Some people are less able to survive disasters; some areas are more prone to flooding than others. The thing is every city of any size is supposed to have disaster planners on the payroll. This is what they are for, do they not have a plan? There should be a map of areas that are expected to flood the worst, and there should also be a list of vulnerable places, like nursing homes.
Part of the planning also needs to be to know where you are going to be able to send people. The controversy with Osteen over the church is a perfect example. If a church or other facility that is not city owned could possibly be used as a shelter make arrangements ahead of time with the owner. Get a commitment from places to use for shelter if needed, then it is not always a last minute surprise.
Some areas are prone to hurricanes/flooding, that is a known fact so there has to be a way to prepare ahead for it. Every city should have a disaster plan, and I am pretty sure the feds have paid out tons of taxpayer money over the past several years to finance readiness. It just didn’t seem to happen.
Typical DIMocRAT losers as elected officials...typical. Those who vote for these nitwit incompetents are mentally challenged.
Consistent with Mayor Nagen’s behavior prior to Katrina.
Perhaps this is from the democrat playbook when there’s a Republican president they hope to blame.
Not this time.
“You don’t have to put millions people on the road,’’ said Brian Wolshon, an expert in traffic and transportation engineering at Louisiana State University who studies hurricane evacuation plans along the Gulf Coast. “But you have to know your hazard, know your threat, and know who needs to move and who doesn’t,” he said. “It takes a lot of preplanning and coordination, but it can be done.”
How about don’t lie when the Army Corps of Engineers report and meeting gets leaked.And don’t try to intimidate a law firm into shutting up about said meeting
Can you give us an example of an evacuation such as you envision working successfully?
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Let me try. The evac would have started last Thursday. And as of right now - they would be halfway through. With millions of people stuck for days on the freeways. Cars parked in gridlock - many flooded under water - hundreds of deaths.
Ike killed over 100 people in Texas. Harvey has yet to kill 10-15. The death toll would be much higher if an evacuation order was enforced.
It’s easy to snark at a democrat mayor. But he was right. No evacuation was necessary. Many lives were saved as a result of their careful thinking.
So I will ask you the same question. Do you want your Mayor and city officials to lie to you if a disaster strikes where you live so that you can’t make an informed decision.
Btw, Houston officials warning there could be a significant rise in number of deaths.
If the cataclysmic rain had shifted 30 miles east of Houston after a mandatory evacuation, the same nattering nabobs would be posting on FR about the unnecessary Houston evacuation order.
IT IS NOT ABOUT A MANDATORY EVACUATION. IT IS ABOUT NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE EXPECTATION AND REFUSING TO WARN PUBLIC
If the mayor had told the truth about the Army Corps of Engineeers report people in areas could have made informed decisions in areas that knew up to 50 inches of rain would be a catastrophe
btw, not only refusing to inform public..but a JUDGE strong arming a law firm that had been telling friends about the meeting to SHUT UP
So I will ask you the same question. Do you want your Mayor and city officials to lie to you if a disaster strikes where you live so that you can’t make an informed decision.
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Who lied? You think the mayor lied? Who cares?
As others have said - we do not depend on any politician for our own personal safety.
A week ago no one - NO ONE AT ALL - could have accurately forecasted what happened. Here in San Antonio - we were told to expect 10-15 inches of rain. We got maybe 3.
You’re talking mass evacuation rather than targeted evacuation of worst areas. I’ll bet there are already maps showing safer versus less safe areas.
Your making stuff up as you go along, aren’t you?
But keep shouting. Maybe you’ll even believe it too.
Army Corps of Engineers knew by Thursday. So did Houston Officials.
Did you even read the article????????????????
And one more time..those details in that army corps of engineers report leaked out from a law firm in the area and a Judge called the law firm and told them to shut up.
“Within minutes of the rumor gaining traction, Harris County Judge Ed Emmett had batted it down and spoken to the email’s author, telling him to leave the emergency warnings to Emmett and other officials.”
Contraflow Implementation In The Southern Coastal States:
http://www.fdot.gov/traffic/Traf_Incident/pdf/Southern_Coastal_States.pdf
Some have been successful, some have not, many remain untested under an actual evacuation order.
The falsehood being put forth is that the entire city of Houston would have to be evacuated in order to have any evacuation at all. As previously noted, the 100-year flood plains are well-known and flood maps exist. Population in highly flood-prone areas as well as highly vulnerable populations such as elderly should have first consideration.
I remember that press conference. Rummy was the man. Miss him.
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