Posted on 05/15/2019 7:45:27 AM PDT by Carolyn_Denton2355
DoubleLine CEO Jeffrey Gundlach warned investors Tuesday that the U.S. is unequipped for recession as it becomes increasingly strapped by debt.
Any thoughtful person would be concerned, the so-called bond king said in a webcast. Its sounding like a pretty bad cocktail of economic risk, and risk to the long end of the bond market.
The billionaire investor said the United States is out of tools to gin up the economy during the next recession. He pointed to the Federal Reserves decision to leave interest rates steady and a dovish turnaround that boosted stocks this year.
The Fed signaled it would not hike rates for the rest of 2019. Even with record low unemployment, it seems like the economy economy cant handle a 2.5% Fed funds rate, he said.
Gundlach also said most of the U.S. economys gross domestic product, or GDP, growth boils down to the amount the country borrowed. He likened the spending problem to maxing out a credit card.
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American individuals and companies have multiple trillions of dollars sitting in non-US financial institutions for tax-avoidance reasons; we need to encourage the bringing back of that money to jump-start the economy.
These guys always lie to you. My guess is he’s had a few cocktails himself.
:: Even with record low unemployment, it seems like the economy [economy] cant handle a 2.5% Fed funds rate, he said. ::
Based on what objective evidence?
:: Even with record low unemployment, it seems like the economy [economy] cant handle a 2.5% Fed funds rate, he said. ::
Oh! it SEEMS like...
:: Even with record low unemployment, it seems like the economy [economy] cant handle a 2.5% Fed funds rate, he said. ::
What Gundlach didn’t say:
Because it maintains my bonds at a steady RoR that is detrimental to my need to manipulate them in times of volatility to make MOAR money for ME.
Bond fund managers are the biggest pieces of scum on the planet.
They will always keep the good deals for themselves, and palm off the junk into the mutual funds they sell to pensions funds and older investors who are told they need to invest in bonds to reduce risk.
There is one guarantee with markets.... they rise and they fall. Sometimes in spectacular fashion.
However, “conventional wisdom” in our public discourse on a whole host of topics in the past few decades has been horribly wrong.
Foreign policy group think - wrong
Economic prognostication - wrong
Global warming - wrong
Housing market stability - wrong
The list is quite long where those who should know - didn’t know. The real irony is the same people who were wrong then are still the ones prognosticating today.
We are experiencing an expansion that is far beyond anything we expected to see again after the Obama years. A period of correction (recession) is inevitable - it is only a matter of when. The DNC, MSM (really part of the DNC), and big investment banks will try to sell us a recession if it hurts the President. You can count on it. The Fed will also do the same things as they are controlled by conventional wisdom (again, its often wrong) and the establishment who still hates Trump.
If Trump can delay the inevitable (and healthy) contraction and correction until after the election it will be an amazing feat. He has some very smart people on his economic team who buck conventional wisdom so he might do it. Our media and politicians treat a recession like the black plague, but never forget that it is necessary for the long-term health of the economy (not the 4 year election cycle).
The next recession may not be nearly as bad minus the typical bloodbath on Wall Street and MSM hysteria because Trump has improved the fundamentals of our economy.
There are going to be massive forces that push for it in the next 18 months.
Whenever we heard the term "bond king," we laughed out loud.
This is a sell-side guy who watches interest rates to see how they are moving.
Think about that a minute.
That's like watching paint dry or grass grow.
The funeral home business is dynamic by comparison.
Yeah. It’s called the 2020 election. It’s the end of the world as we know it if Trump wins (or so the hysterical Democratic Socialists would have you believe).
They never said this when bammy racked up the debt.
Bond holders and that industry are notoriously pessimistic.
He has a point, though, in that we have no cushion at present to lower interest rates to stave off the next recession.
Bond guys have been very pessimistic lately. Not a big surprise when bonds have so little return.
But lenders are making money. Look at the Capitol One balance sheet - demand and term deposits paying 1-2%, which they lend out as credit card debt, raking in on average (after losses) 15%.
Bond holders (who are pension funds, and older investors told to invest in bonds to get a "guaranteed return" with low risk... *snort*) and savers are the suckers in this economy.
Yeah, I’ve heard that before and I totally agree with this idea. However, how can we force big corporations to bring back all the money they’re hiding on Virgen Islands and in other tax havens? Without breaking the rule of law and the free market, of course.
If we get such radical reform, the USA will end up being the world's largest tax haven because investors all over the world will put their money in American banks and the US stock market essentially tax free.
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