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Is Illinois contestable in 2020 for Trump?
Guava Cheese Puff | February 10, 2020 | Guava Cheese Puff

Posted on 02/10/2020 4:30:07 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff

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To: Dr. Sivana

Cook and surrounding collar counties are rotted beyond redemption...at this point. Rest of state is cool. Sort of like northern7k Virginia vs Virginia.


21 posted on 02/10/2020 4:45:55 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

The only chance would be if Bernie is cheated out of the nomination again and runs as a third-party candidate. I doubt he would do that. Barring something like that it is probably a very safe state for the ‘Rats in November 2020.


22 posted on 02/10/2020 4:47:09 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Zathras

Trump would have to turn about 8% in Oregon to win here. I think Washington is probably closer than Oregon. In California I doubt he has a prayer.

Governor Kate Brown is for sure doing everything in her power to get conservatives, independents, and republicans to crawl over broken glass to vote her out though. Of course, big out of state money will fund constitution party and libertarian party candidates to split the vote. If Oregon republicans had half a strategic brain, we’d find a frothing at the mouth leftist or two to run on the green party and/or pacific party ticket.

Of course, depending how big the “walk away” and “Blexit” movements are, maybe Illinois could be put into play.


23 posted on 02/10/2020 4:51:01 PM PST by Tailback
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To: teletech

“I’ll believe it when the President has an Illinois rally.”

He tried in 2016 and had one scheduled but between the filthy democrat Emanuel and antifa they were able to get it scrubbed.


24 posted on 02/10/2020 4:51:34 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
Having lived with Chitown's dominance for most of my life, it seems unlikely, but DJT ain't your run of the mill President, either.

I do believe, however, changes in states like Illinois, NJ, and the rust belt will nicely swing the popular vote to our side, which shuts the commies pie holes.

25 posted on 02/10/2020 4:52:50 PM PST by chiller (As Davey Crockett once said: Be sure you're right. Then go ahead. I'm goin' ahead.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

No. Bit Minnesota might be.


26 posted on 02/10/2020 4:53:04 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Lurker

I see no path for winning IL. Lived in the collar counties for 19y. Collar counties are pink compared to the bright red of the 80s.

The Daly machine is still alive & very active; palm cards w buffets are very prevalent and a mainstay of the precinct captains.


27 posted on 02/10/2020 4:53:06 PM PST by fastrock
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To: teletech
I don't think so...they prefer a freak show.


28 posted on 02/10/2020 4:55:07 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
I doubt it but if it happened, you'd be able to watch morning joe and his ho, commit suicide on TV at 7:30 AM, the morning following the election.

I'd stay semi-high for a week, without using any chemicals including alcohol, weed, coke or legal prescription drugs.

Just watching the msm would put me on cloud nine and I could float like I was on a magic carpet.

29 posted on 02/10/2020 4:59:17 PM PST by USS Alaska (NUKE THE MOOSELIMB, TERRORISTS, NOW!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Did you see the poll showing Trump within margin of error in Delaware?

Every state but CA is in play this year.


30 posted on 02/10/2020 5:03:14 PM PST by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

I’m sure someone is crunching the numbers for all 50 states. Trump targeting a seemingly “ungettable” state (I would rather see California be pursued) would be a yuuge signal to the country (and the republican party establishment in particular) that conservatism can win all over the country, not just eke out an apologetic narrow victory every so often.


31 posted on 02/10/2020 5:04:00 PM PST by jz638
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To: Combat_Liberalism

Thinking a Bernie-Pete ticket could lose a lot of states.


32 posted on 02/10/2020 5:04:43 PM PST by John W (Trump/Pence 2020)
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To: be-baw
IF the results of 2016 are legit from the vote county, Trump has to overcome a 944,714 deficit.

The libertarian candidate pulled 209,596 from Trump while the green candidate pulled 76,802 from shillary.

IF those votes went to Trump and shillary respectively that's still a pretty tall hill for Trump to overcome.

Plus, if Illinois is close, we know Cook county will be the very last county to report and some liberal judge will allow the polls to stay open as long as it takes.

33 posted on 02/10/2020 5:09:49 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

There might be some Republicans left in Illinois but there is no Republican party in Illinois


34 posted on 02/10/2020 5:10:31 PM PST by Sedona13
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
Dole in 1996 and Bush in 2000 went all odds to win IL......if they had won IL......they won’t have been a Clinton or Gore.

*****

No...it wouldn't have mattered in 1996 or even in 92.

Slick carried 379 EVs to Dole's 159.

IL Evs were 22 in 1996.

35 posted on 02/10/2020 5:16:30 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Hell yes Trump will win Illinois! and a whole lot of other states people think are lost causes.


36 posted on 02/10/2020 5:17:37 PM PST by upsdriver (WWG1WGA 1745 The Great Awakening is World Wide!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Get Cook to stay home and it’d be a cinch.


37 posted on 02/10/2020 5:19:07 PM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

I wish but you can’t win a state when you start with the other side getting a 20 point lead-the demographics have changed, same as California, Nv etc

In Illinois its now 17% Hispanic and Dems got 12 of those to 5 for Trump, African Americans are 14% and Dems get 12% and Tump 2 , Asian are 5% and Dems get 3.5 to 1 so right away with 36% of the vote in it is 28.3% for Dems vs 7.7 for Trump , a 20 point lead for Dems.

Just look at the states won by Trump,he won 32 states but only 4 have a population of Hispanic voters over 13%. Clinton by contrast won 28 states and only 5 had a Hispanic population of under 13%.

In CA, the Hispanic Population is now about 40% (and yes fueled by illegal immigrants and higher birth rate )and African American 12%.

This demographic shift and resulting voting trend is what is going on in early stages in Nevada, Az, Fl and now Texas. Colorado is now over 20% Hispanic and now a dem state, Nevada over 29% and voting solidly blue. I believe this is why the dems are for illegal immigration-it gets them votes and power.


38 posted on 02/10/2020 5:19:20 PM PST by TECTopcat (TopCat)
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To: sarasota
Illinois is blue, blue and more blue. These people are diehards.

Au contraire !
Chicago is a shithole, robbing the rest of the state to pay for its unending failures and plantation gibsmedats.

2016 Presidential results .. click for source:

39 posted on 02/10/2020 5:19:34 PM PST by tomkat
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To: GuavaCheesePuff; BillyBoy; TheRightGuy

I suggest Illinois is different from MI, OH, PA. Large numbers of tribal Democrats have left jobless Democrat Rust Belt cities for the Red States that have plenty of jobs. The R:D ratio in MI, OH, PA has shifted due to so many Democrats leaving.

But in Illinois, both Republicans and Democrats have fled the state. The R:D ratio has not changed. If anything the D advantage has increased because the government employees now are such a larger share of the population and work force.

Anybody have statistics to confirm and squelch my anecdotal observation?


40 posted on 02/10/2020 5:19:44 PM PST by spintreebob
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