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What happens when riots are a normal part of life?
Borepatch ^ | 8/7/2020

Posted on 08/09/2020 9:54:46 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Despite the desperate attempts by the increasingly irrelevant media to call them "peaceful protests", they are riots and they're occurring in most of America's large cities. Either order will be restored or we will see the re-emergence of what we've seen throughout history when life is precarious. While history is out of fashion and no longer taught in school, the lessons of history are clear - the Gods of the Copybook Headings did not get their name by accident.

So what happens when people live precariously, under continual threat of violence? They flee to safer places.


This is an entrance to the underground city of Derinkuyu in Turkey. There were many of these underground cities in the region; Derinkuyu was the largest, supporting as many as 20,000 people in five levels extending 200 feet underground. You might wonder why anyone would want to live underground in these conditions, or why they would have gone to that much trouble to excavate the city.

Well, it beats being slaughtered or enslaved by invaders. The eastern portion of the Roman Empire survived the Eternal City's 476 AD fall, but by the 650s was in big trouble from the new Islamic Caliphate. The Emperor Heraclius had lost the richest part of the empire - Syria and Egypt, perhaps 75% of his tax base - to the Caliph in the 640s, and now annual raids were penetrating the heartland of the empire. And so the people dug, and hid.

Or fled. A new field of archaeology is called Palynology, the study of old, preserved pollen. It provides insight into the plants that existed in a location at a particular time in the past. Of course, you need a site that preserves the old pollen, and there are not a lot of them. Lake Nar is one of them, and as it turns out, one of the best in the world for preserving pollen in a highly datable manner. The chemistry of the lake - fed by hot springs - causes alternating light and dark sediment bands to be laid down each year, so archaeologists can do exceptionally precise pollen analysis and dating. Lake Nar is only 15 miles or so from Derinkuyu. So what do we see, pollen-wise, in the 650s and 660s AD?

We see the complete collapse of the late antique agricultural economy of the region. The pollens had been representative of a typical late Roman agricultural profile - olives, grapes, and grain production dominated. Then in the space of ten years it shifted almost entirely to the kind of weeds you find in abandoned agricultural land. Then later it turned to forest.

Life was too precarious for the population. They were killed, or dragged off to slavery, or they left - some perhaps to dig more tunnels at Derinkuyu.

Now think about Detroit, Minneapolis, Portland, and New York City. Crime is way up, riots are a regular occurrence, the people are living precariously. What will they do?

Well, some will stay, and submit. For these, life almost certainly will be less prosperous than it had been. That means that there will be less to loot, or to skim off the top in extortion. The rioters are eating their seed grain, but having fun while they do it.

Others will fight back. We'll see how that goes when the Organs Of The State side with the rioters.

The ones who can will leave. That's happening in New York City, which is losing their wealthiest citizens. That's a real problem for the local government, since the wealthiest 1% of the population pays half the income tax revenue. Heraclius lost most of his tax base, too, and the Empire was never the same again.

Civilized society is a very fragile thing. We've had fifty years where society was peaceful here in this land. People think that is a normal thing, that it can never change, that prosperity is a pre-existing condition for beautiful Progressive Dreams. But the rioters and looters are having fun, and are getting loot. Appetites are being established, appetites that are in conflict with the pre-existing prosperity required for the Progressive Dreams.

But people are people. History tells us what happens to a land where the government cannot keep the peace.


TOPICS: History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: agriculture; civilization; civilunrest; collapse; derinkuyu; riots; shtf; society

1 posted on 08/09/2020 9:54:46 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Rioters lives turn into shit, that’s what happens.


2 posted on 08/09/2020 10:06:34 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies)
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To: LibWhacker

List of incidents of civil unrest in the United States

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States


3 posted on 08/09/2020 10:10:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All men and women were created by the, you know, you know, the thing.” -- Joe Biden 3/3/20)
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To: LibWhacker

Well, there either is the rule of law, or there is chaos.

Chaos in the form of vigilantism, tribalism with warlords and militias, survival of the fittest.

Chaos is untenable in the long run, so you might get a splintering of the country like it happened in yougoslavia or the ussr, or you end up with the strongest warlord ruling the whole country. Kinda back to the future. It’s happened many times in the past.


4 posted on 08/09/2020 10:22:42 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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To: LibWhacker

I am reminded of the op-ed Henry Kissinger had back in April. Yes, that old evil fool is still around kicking and seems to be pulling strings.

Failure Could Set the World on Fire
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8187313/Henry-Kissinger-warns-coronavirus-spell-economic-doom-generations.html

1. Find a treatment/cure
2. Heal economic wounds (democrats are blocking)
3. Kissinger writes special programs need to be developed to help fix the damage of those most affected by the shutdown.

Lastly, Kissinger writes the principles of the liberal world order need to be protected, noting that an enlightened government believes it should provide ‘security, order, economic well-being, and justice’.

As you can see Kissinger is telling us what needs to happen and the Democrats are blocking President Trump every step of the way. The Democrat antics are not only bad for the nation, they are very bad for the world order.


5 posted on 08/09/2020 10:24:37 AM PDT by EBH (Cancel the DNC Party)
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To: LibWhacker

Stupid question.

Better question: What element(s) are trying to make riots a normal part of life?

Answer: The Delusional Lying Left and DNC which has gone off the deep end in their hatred of Trump, America, and the American People.


6 posted on 08/09/2020 10:26:11 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: LibWhacker; All

Answer: use your rifle.


7 posted on 08/09/2020 10:32:50 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isnÂ’t common anymore.)
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To: LibWhacker

...History tells us what happens to a land where the government cannot keep the peace.

The Gods of the Copybook Headings (Kipling reference)
are very likely to forcefully remind us about Natural Law.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!


8 posted on 08/09/2020 10:38:09 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: LibWhacker
What happens when riots are a normal part of life?

There is a word for that. It is called 'Utopia.'

9 posted on 08/09/2020 10:51:51 AM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: LibWhacker

What happens when riots are a normal part of life?

Proof that you voted democrat.


10 posted on 08/09/2020 11:01:42 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: EBH

The elites want “The Great Reset”. Look it up if you haven’t seen it.


11 posted on 08/09/2020 11:09:56 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: LibWhacker

The French Reign of Terror

Post reconstruction KKK

SDS and Weather Underground

OWS

WTO riots in Seattle

Portlandia for the last 25 years


12 posted on 08/09/2020 11:13:49 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: LibWhacker

If riots become a so-called “normal part of life”, the country learns in a hurry that the only two options available are (1) stand up, or (2) bend over.

In that event, logic would seem to indicate that either (1) the rioters are “dealt with” in the only way that will bring a permanent solution to the problem, or (2) the rioters will kill us all.


13 posted on 08/09/2020 12:08:59 PM PDT by AFB-XYZ
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To: LibWhacker

“What happens when riots are a normal part of life?”

It’s like my solution to “Dawn of the Planet of the Apes”:

1. Give “everyone” a rifle.

2. Shoot everything that looks like an “ape.”


14 posted on 08/09/2020 12:15:36 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: LibWhacker
"What happens when riots are a normal part of life?" I gloat when the big cities go to hell.😎
15 posted on 08/09/2020 12:43:19 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: LibWhacker

Then we get to play too.....poof...end to riots.


16 posted on 08/09/2020 1:15:06 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: LibWhacker

Eventually, a number of people decide enough is enough and fight fire with bigger fire...


17 posted on 08/10/2020 3:08:37 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I experienced the 1964 race riots in Rochester, NY...was 12 and in my Great Uncle’s car when we came upon a blockage in the street where a lot of them yutes were rocking a car back and forth - they saw us coming and let the lady in the car drive off as they turned to us. My uncle told me I was gonna learn something and hit the gas in his ‘64 Caprice and there was an actual thump as he sideswiped one who got tangled up with the others trying to scatter when they realized he wasn’t going to stop....I never got a chance to see if the person went down but I felt the thump ...

Then Uncle Howie looked at me and said, “If you don’t give them any more respect than they give you, you have a chance to win. If you’re polite like that lady, you already lost.”

Uncle Howie was only 5’6” or so and maybe 140 lbs, but he was known for his “scrappiness”...


18 posted on 08/10/2020 3:17:25 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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