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1 posted on 04/17/2021 1:38:28 PM PDT by Jacquerie
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It has long been obvious to me, that the 17th removed a check and balance of the states, and since the 17th was adopted, the federal government and its powers have grown and states' powers have dwindled.

But what do to do about it? I recently changed my mind about making political arguments based on the US Constitution, opting for a nationalist/populist approach that has been fundamental to MAGA success. Making constitutional arguments, I have discovered, falls on deaf ears. It is fine to be firmly rooted in the US Constitution, and to have disagreements with certain amendments, including the 17th. But how do you get through to the masses that have zero background in civics to motivate them about a change to the US Constitution?

2 posted on 04/17/2021 2:11:59 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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100% agree however I see no way that is going to happen. That would take a legitimate functioning government of the people and that ended with the successful coup in Nov of last year. The people that did this are Communists, they are criminals and they are traitors. History tells us very clearly they are not going to leave peacefully. I'm not advocating anything. I'm just saying it's too late to vote ourselves out of this mess. The only voting that matters from here out is within individual states. States where people want to live free are going to have to nullify and codify the federal government out of their business to the point of eventually becoming independent. In other words, I think we are destined to fracture into two separate nations.

I think this will be very clear in a year or so when Republicans lose even more seats in both the house and senate. The Commies will move forward with packing the supreme court then any Commie law they pass will stand up in the highest court.

I hope I'm wrong but I'm not aware of any history that supports the notion we can save this republic as it is today.

4 posted on 04/17/2021 2:25:02 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Jacquerie; ConservativeInPA; precisionshootist

There may be valid arguments against the direct election of US Senators, but blaming that for the loss of State power versus the national government isn’t one of them. That happened 50 years earlier.

Union victory in the Civil War ended the doctrine of state’s rights via force majeure, no messy Constitutional amendment needed. The Anti-Federalists’ suspicions were proven to be correct, the national government consolidated power to itself.

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/blog/the-anti-federalists-and-their-important-role-during-the-ratification-fight


9 posted on 04/17/2021 3:15:55 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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I’ve come to the opinion that the failings of the last few Republican adminstrations is they think they can fix things. They then spend four years fighting the system and gain nothing.

It can’t be fixed. It needs to be blown up. My vote goes to the candidate who says day one he will transfer all federal departments other than the State Department and DoD to the States.


15 posted on 04/17/2021 4:14:12 PM PDT by Renfrew
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“When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils, but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles.”

Reminder of your GREAT work, Rod. Thanks. BUMP-TO-THE-TRUTH


33 posted on 04/19/2021 8:54:33 AM PDT by PGalt (past peak civilization?)
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