Posted on 05/13/2021 6:57:16 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Several years ago, I was the sponsor for a guy going through conversion from what he was (in a religious sense) to Catholic. He wasn’t just any guy; he was a very senior CIA officer who has frequently appeared on television since he transitioned to think-tank denizen. The Rite of Christian Initiation as an Adult (RCIA) experience builds a bond between sponsor and candidate/catechumen that often goes beyond religious conversations. On one occasion, we talked politics and foreign policy.
What separates us from the Third World in our politics, he opined, are the twin concepts of peaceful transfer of power via the ballot box rather than by military intervention and the unwritten and unspoken principle that victors do not use the police power of the state to punish the vanquished. Without the second concept, no sane person will ever relinquish office if they run the risk of ending up imprisoned or on the gallows. Once politics become a blood sport, he said, there is no way to stop the slide into rule by people with guns. I’d never really looked at it that way and can’t, even today, disagree with him. If there is any debt owed to Gerald Ford, it is his preservation of the republic by pardoning Richard Nixon.
With that said, it seems as though the left, which has long detested America, is hellbent on crossing that redline and pushing this nation ever closer to one where the abuse of law and the use of the judicial apparatus as stormtroopers and enforcers rather than the rule of law and respect for tradition prevails. If Politico is to be believed, stay with me here, the left is anticipating that President Trump will soon be indicted on state felony charges in New York: POLITICO Playbook: How Palm Beach is preparing for a possible Trump indictment:
SCOOP: PALM BEACH MAKES CONTINGENCY PLANS IN CASE TRUMP IS INDICTED — Law enforcement officials in Palm Beach County, Fla., have actively prepared for the possibility that Manhattan District Attorney CY VANCE could indict former President DONALD TRUMP while he’s at Mar-a-Lago, according to two high-ranking county officials involved in planning sessions.
Among the topics discussed in those meetings: how to handle the thorny extradition issues that could arise if an indictment moves forward.
An obscure clause in Florida’s statute on interstate extradition gives Gov. RON DESANTIS the ability to intervene and even investigate whether an indicted “person ought to be surrendered” to law enforcement officials from another state — which means that as Mar-a-Lago prepares to close down for the season and Trump relocates to Bedminster, N.J., it isn’t just the Florida heat he’s leaving behind: He could lose a key piece of political protection.
“The statute leaves room for interpretation that the governor has the power to order a review and potentially not comply with the extradition notice,” says JOE ABRUZZO, clerk of the Circuit Court of Palm Beach County, the official who would be in charge of opening a potential fugitive-at-large case.
One wrinkle to Abruzzo’s potential role in all of this: He is a former close associate of President JOE BIDEN’S younger brother, FRANK. Abruzzo tells Playbook that despite his friendship with the Biden family, “the full extent of the law will be followed and carried out appropriately, without bias.”
If an indictment comes down while Trump is in Bedminster for the summer, this could all play out very differently. New Jersey’s extradition statute is similar to Florida’s, giving the governor the power to investigate an out-of-state warrant. But its governor is Democrat PHIL MURPHY, who is no fan of Trump’s, and would not likely intervene to stop Trump’s extradition. In the event of an indictment, Trump’s lawyers could also negotiate a condition of surrender, which could cut local law enforcement out. An attorney for Trump declined to comment.
With Trump settling down in New Jersey for the next few months, Florida is unlikely to have to sort through this any time soon. But the clock is ticking on the Manhattan D.A.’s investigation: On March 12, Vance said in a statement that he will retire at the end of 2021, and speculation abounds that his office — which is currently investigating whether Trump and his businesses committed banking and tax fraud, among other lines of inquiry — could issue indictments before passing the case along to his successor.
And that means that Palm Beach County may yet have to get involved — depending on whether Trump is indicted, of course, and whether that happens after Mar-a-Lago reopens in the fall.
The left has been demanding that President Trump and his family be indicted for imaginary crimes ever since he won a free and fair election in 2016, so it is no surprise that this story is rising to the surface again. President Trump’s impact on the Republican Party is much greater than anyone in the media had thought possible. He’s emerging as a significant power center in the 2022 and 2024 campaigns. The people who had roped their wagon onto the NeverTrump star, like Liz Cheney, like the Bulwark twits, like the North American Man-Boy Lincoln Association, are being pushed aside. The institutional forces that had long been associated with the GOP, like the US Chamber of Commerce, are also finding themselves left out in the cold by the up-and-coming generation of populist politicians and a base that wants nothing to do with Heritage Foundation style corporatist conservatism.
We need to anticipate that President Trump will, indeed, be indicted by a New York grand jury. The New York attorney general and the Manhattan district attorney have too much political capital involved in their highly public investigation of President Trump to shrug and say, “nothing there, folks.” With the New York power structure in utter chaos thanks to Andrew Cuomo’s predatory behavior, casual cruelty, calculated evasion of the law, and superhuman hubris, there is literally no mechanism left within that state to prevent a revenge indictment that could very well propel the instigator to national prominence. They will give no thought to the long-term damage done to our political life or even the damage done to the Democrat party in 2022 and 2024. The lizard-brain urge to lash out at President Trump is simply too strong to be resisted.
The rest of the Politico piece is just Resistance spank material. There won’t be any kind of a face-off between Ron DeSantis and Cyrus Vance over the corpus of Donald Trump. If he’s indicted, he will end up on trial. He will be convicted. He will spend the rest of his life in jail. The left will think they have taught us a lesson, and they will be right. The next Republican president will be under enormous pressure to take a similar Democrat scalp. To be on the safe side and make it hurt, he’ll probably have to take down several prominent Democrats. And the left will ‘wave the bloody shirt’ and demand retribution the next time they occupy the White House. The real question becomes why a Republican from a Blue or even a Purple state would even bother to run for the presidency and what he would do when leaving office meant either prison or financial ruin in defending himself?
I suppose that it’s quite possible that Trump dropped prosecuting Hillary for these reasons, if he ever actually intended that.
No good deed goes unpunished nowadays, it seems.
It won’t happen.
The Feds are well aware of the societal repercussions.
They’ll do whatever they have to do to stop NY.
Even in a Biden administration.
The left will not push the right over the edge of civil war, but only because they would lose badly.
They will never do it. It would just take away from their agenda.
North American Man-Boy Lincoln Association
Now that was funny
If President Trump (the best President ever) is indicted and extradited, the shit will really hit the fan.
It will be the end of the Republic, or at least of the Democrat Party and also a thinning of the RINO ranks of the GOP who tolerate shit like this.
Not a threat.. Just a prediction.
They will never do it. It would just take away from their agenda.
Democrats are like a dog chasing a car
They are all about the chase, and have zero idea what to do if they actually do catch the car
They don’t yet have a crime, so they hope by getting Trump taxes, they can manufacture something, correct?
Is that why President Trump is in Jersey for the summer? To taunt them?
He is about an 45 minutes away from New York, he is taunting them at this point.
“The lizard-brain urge to lash out at President Trump is simply too strong to be resisted.”
They talkin’ ‘bout that Cheney Woman here?
They don’t even know what they think he’s going to be indicted for. You can’t charge a person with irritating bed-wetting liberals.
They don’t yet have a crime, so they hope by getting Trump taxes, they can manufacture something, correct?
And that isn’t a real crime, it is a bureaucratic “crime” of miscalculation or misinterpretation of the tax code, he has accountants and tax lawyers doing his taxes, that he pays them to do. So if he goes, they all go, so to speak. Its not like President Trump is sitting at his kitchen table on April 14th throwing his taxes together.
Also I am sure Trump and his attorneys got a “tax opinion” from the IRS on large deduction or write offs, this helps in case of an audit. And if some dipcrap prosecutor from NY with an ax to grind thinks she can prosecute him or anyone for taking a legal deduction write off or whatever, especially if the IRS approved of it in their own opinion, it would be really difficult because the prosecutor is basically going against the IRS officials and trying to create their own law and rules and prosecute based upon that.
These people are either all bark no bite, or complete morons, or both.
The Dems don’t have to indict Trump. Trump is sitting on the beach in FL. He was a figurehead POTUS and now he is a figurehead opposition figure. Real power rests completely in the Deep State. They are guilty as sin and free as birds. Meanwhile, Trump supporters rot in jail. If Trump ever had any real power that certainly would not be the case.
Not only will they indict him, but they will do their best to arrest him.
He is not in Florida right now, he is in New Jersey for the summer
He is right in their front yard and they are not going to do crap.
Wanna bet? They desperately want a reaction, thats what the constant drumbeat gaslighting of White Supremacy is about. Look how theyve milked Jan. 6th and most of those people just walked around taking selfies. They are going to indict Trump, it’ll probably be some piss ant charge, but the media will play it up to be the Nuremberg trials. At least half the population will eat it up and clap like Seals.
“The Feds are well aware of the societal repercussions.”
You are very optimistic about the willingness to do anything.
If after the stolen election nothing happened, why would anything go on after Trump gets arrested?
“The next Republican president will be under enormous pressure to take a similar Democrat scalp. To be on the safe side and make it hurt, he’ll probably have to take down several prominent Democrats.”
I’m not convinced this will ever happen. Both ways, I guess—that a republican is ever elected president again and and if one is they somehow go on some successful plan that involves the justice department and grand juries in DC. I mean who makes up the justice department, who lives in DC?
Freegards
That is absurd.
The GOP will do NOTHING - even if by some miracle we win a national election.
The Trump DOJ, the Trump FBI, the Trump Intelligence Community, and the Trump appointed Judges, did NOTHING to stop the rampant criminality of the Democrat Party.
A New York jury will convict Trump on whatever a New York Grand Jury indicts him on.
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