Posted on 12/06/2021 9:12:00 AM PST by MercyFlush
I had a chat with a friend this morning and in the course of the chat he mentioned how China has been quietly building up its forces in Shenyang province, which is adjacent to Russia and North Korea. He says the unusual thing is that the troops and equipment are not being moved into existing military bases but instead into so-called "Ghost Cities" like the Hunnan Xin district of Shenyang City.
He says he first noticed this about two months ago when a number of empty buildings started to have lights in them at night and he could see military vehicles parked in neighborhood parking structures.
Perhaps this is normal activity.
I'm wondering if China might be preparing to make a move into North Korea or the Russian Far East? If Russia gets bogged down in a war in Ukraine and then they get hammered by sanctions a weakened Russia would be hard pressed to defend their Far East.
I post this not to diminish the ever-present threat of China against the free people of Taiwan. It's just on my mind and wondered if anyone else is hearing similar stories from their friends in Northern China about ghost cities coming to life with military activity.
Those areas would be pretty easy pickings. The Russian and North Korean armies are pretty much a joke. However, Russia does have nuclear weapons, and North Korea might.
If the PRC takes North Korea, it might be able to force S. Korea into a Finlandized status, or even into client state.
That would be a coup!
Hmmmm.... interesting.
There is also the current EverGrande saga, with bankruptcy and a financial tsunami a real possibility.
Perhaps this occupation of ghost cities and their buildings is a leadup to government seizure.
I’m not sure why China would be interested in getting bogged down trying to deal with the internal disaster that is North Korea. The NORKS have fulfilled every request made of them by China. They’re a good enough proxy as it stands.
What would they want with a social and economic basket case like North Korea?
from my home page
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4002096/posts?page=58#58
The chinese will send a sampan navy with 10million “internal migration” civilians armed with CNN uplinks, cameras, and bullhorns. When they get mowed down by our side, the resulting negative PR will be amplified by the chinese knocking out 2 of our aircraft carriers in the blockade with their hypersonic ICBM thermally guided antiship missiles.
America will luze stomach for the fight over what it already calls an internal province of China. Taiwan has never declared independence.
About a third of civilians in Taiwan are ethnic Chinese and maybe only half of them have loyalties and fifth column tendencies towards communist China. They have hundreds of thousands of cargo ships they can fill with civilians armed with cameras, CNN uplinks, and bullhorns.
The resultant slaughter will be live on CNN and the PR backlash will be enough to let China walk right back into their own internal (never did declare independence) province. If we blockade them, they’ll lob thermal-capable antiship ICBM missiles at our aircraft carriers and CNN will record them sinking to the bottom of the sea with the resultant nuclear plume.
America will luze stomach for the fight after luzing a couple $Trillion in carriers and tens of thousands of men in one afternoon, all seen on CNN, with our recourse being... to slaughter civilians. China has all the cards, they just have to lay them down on the table at this point.
And when it’s all over but the shouting, the RINOs and GOPes and democraps will be handwringing, hoping for a quick way to order chinese chips & electronics from Amazon. The chinese want the continued business of globalists so it’ll all be “can’t we just get along” and “water under the bridge” as soon as China is in charge and chips are shipping.
Like they aren’t a social and economic basket case themselves?
“What would they want with a social and economic basket case like North Korea?”
This is what they’d want with the Norks:
https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/article/article.aspx?aid=3050164
But they could just as easily want to seize the Russian Far East or maybe it’s just a move intended to cause their Russian neighbors to get nervous.
China has absolutely ZERO need to take North Korea. It already has exactly what it wants - a pliant, weak, controlled, isolated buffer state on its borders. China is probably concerned about DPRK’s nukes, but if Kim ever truly threatened China, they could probably arrange a coup. The DPRK is China’s bastard child, and they probably have agents and contacts spread throughout the DPRK government and military.
As for taking part of Russia, that would be 100% contrary to its present interests and focus. Its a ridiculous idea.
when thinking of the Chinese military, think of the US army, combined with your local Dept. of Motor Vehicles and Welfare office. If they are taking over empty apartments, its probably just a deal with local governments to house its many dependents.
Relax! Our Intel may not have a clue about Chi-nah, but they got our soccer mom snd dad’s dialed in.
It’s the detail about the military vehicles being parked in civilian parking structures that made me think that maybe this is possibly something of note.
Think about why they’d do that.
LOL! So true!
Isn’t North Korea already a client state? I don’t doubt China could do anything it wants to North Korea, and since China is their main ally, no one is going to interfere.
Let’s face it.
Russia will take over Ukraine, and China will take over Taiwan.
It’s inevitable. Democrats want the U.S. to become socialist/communist, and are working hard towards that goal.
The occupier in the White House made the U.S. weaker, and is concentrating on making the U.S. just like Russia and China, so, why would he be fighting countries which resemble what the democrats have in mind for the U.S.?
Taiwan and Ukraine are gone!
Agree that N.Korea is unnecessary, and the risk/reward to protracted conflict with Russia doesn’t make sense either. The only way it wouldn’t be a protracted territorial conflict is if it escalated a LOT.
My question is, how much does China still hate Japan, going back to WWII and before, and how much of a prize would some of it’s islands be, or the whole prize if the U.S. goes gutless and leaves them high and dry?
I agree. They are gone.
In China, there is much less distinction between military and civil as you see here. Before Jiang zemin, the military was engaged in business, farming, would own factories, engage in property speculation, etc.... Jiang was smart enough to get the army out of corrupting business activities. Nonetheless, all property is ultimately owned by Chinese Government at some level, and the Chinese Army is at the absolute top of the government pecking order.
Whatever your friend is seeing could be literally anything. Maybe some generals want some free government housing for their mistresses?
So let me understand this. The CCP’s leaders, whom nobody has accused of being stupid, appear to have a choice between attacking/capturing Taiwan - backed by the weakest US President in at least a century, with a military more concerned with accomodating mentally-sick trans-sexuals than in enhancing combat readiness and effectiveness- on the one hand, vs. attacking Russia, headed by arguably its strongest leader since Stalin and armed with thousands of nuclear weapons, on the other hand...and you think that they’re going to attack Russia?
OooooooKaaaaaaaay.
They could do all three at the same time.
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