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Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The 2022 Russian Invasion Of Ukraine
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Posted on 06/07/2023 5:57:11 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: FtrPilot

Also, the flooding makes a direct attack (counterattack) on Crimea impossible.


For now, but if you read what Zaluzhny said - it actually makes it easier once the flood waters subside in a few weeks: a 250km front instead of just 70km. By then the river will be at its historic width and easily crossed.


21 posted on 06/07/2023 7:01:41 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: tired&retired

Haven’t heard that scenario but seems plausible.
Washing away their forces, cutting of Crimea,
And ultimately increasing the area that Ukraine can attack
Master strategists


22 posted on 06/07/2023 7:03:25 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: blitz128

Remove the kirsh bridge and Crimea turns into a desert


The water for the Crimea came from the Dnieper - blowing the dam ensures that there will be no water for the northern half of Crimea and only limited water for the rest of it. Northern Crimea may soon turn into the desert as it once was.

The Kersh bridge is needed so all the Russians can evacuate, and has nothing to do with water supplies fro the Crimea.


23 posted on 06/07/2023 7:05:28 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: tired&retired

Close, but the Russian had heavily mined **inside** the dam and the power plant last year. They likely also placed more heavy explosive charges as well and wired the lot to a switch of some sort.

It takes tons of explosives to blow a dam, a single mine will not blow it. A bomb in the water will just displace water, doing nothing to the dam. The explosives have to be placed inside the dam to work.

The Russians did not open the gates because they wanted to build up the water pressure on the dam to an extreme, so that when it blew, complete destruction was ensured.

As for the detonation - some heroic Russian clicked a switch to blow the mines or heavy explosives - water pressure set off any remaining mines that had not detonated - those are the explosions in the after-detonation images.

It is instructive to point out here that not only the dam was blown, but the entire hydroelectric power plant - you can see in one image smoke coming from inside what remains.


24 posted on 06/07/2023 7:19:10 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Poor wording remove kirsh bridge which I think also has a water line, along with dam being blown and Crimea becomes untenable.

Though I agree to a point about leaving it for them to leave on , if they don’t blow it and lay siege

My guess is Putin can’t let Crimea go so that will be last stand.and won’t evacuate bridge or no bridge

RT won’t be able to polish that one


25 posted on 06/07/2023 7:38:46 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: PIF
Comments on 2 of your posts:

First: For now, but if you read what Zaluzhny said - it actually makes it easier once the flood waters subside in a few weeks: a 250km front instead of just 70km. By then the river will be at its historic width and easily crossed.

I would agree, however, the big unknown is how long it will take for the river to subside and the mud to dry out enough for heavy armor traffic.

My guess is RU high command thought the counterattack was imminent and decided to blow the dam.

Second: It takes tons of explosives to blow a dam, a single mine will not blow it...The explosives have to be placed inside the dam to work.

Excellent analysis, thanks.

26 posted on 06/07/2023 7:51:04 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: blitz128

My guess is Putin can’t let Crimea go so that will be last stand.and won’t evacuate bridge or no bridge


With the destruction of the dam and the coming desertification of Crimea, Putin has already lost Crimea. No water, no people.


27 posted on 06/07/2023 8:06:47 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

Exactly.

Looks pretty bad for Russia and for master strategist Putin...lol


28 posted on 06/07/2023 8:31:40 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Trump's lies about Cuomo being better than DeSantis on Covid is DISQUALIFYING....)
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To: PIF; All

“A Russian 2S3 Akatsiya was destroyed by Ukrainian forces yesterday.”

https://twitter.com/Arslon_Xudosi/status/1666431529894158336


29 posted on 06/07/2023 8:39:32 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Putin stooge.” How original.....

Like I already told you in a previous comment in this post, I was born in North Dakota.


30 posted on 06/07/2023 8:49:07 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: PIF

I think he never gave a rats ass about any of them except maybe rich and their vacation homes, and even then. It was always about power, power over Black Sea, natural resources in the Black Sea and of course the port

There will be no lease agreement this time and all he will have left is shallow water ports that mostly freeze

His popularity soared after taking Crimea, interesting to see what happens when he loses it.

What are your thoughts on either floating mines hitting dam, or accidental detonation or over detonation, of course there is alway smoking accident seems a lot of that going around these days
Atp geopolitics covers all the fires in Russia quite a few


31 posted on 06/07/2023 8:51:11 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: FtrPilot
"Second: It takes tons of explosives to blow a dam, a single mine will not blow it...The explosives have to be placed inside the dam to work."

A known problem that we solved in WW II. It is disingenuous of you to argue that it is not possible.

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13104836.dambusters-marking-70th-anniversary-one-daring-wartime-missions/


32 posted on 06/07/2023 8:55:17 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: rbmillerjr
"Looks pretty bad for Russia and for master strategist Putin...lol"

Bakhmut...lol

33 posted on 06/07/2023 8:57:02 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
How is that Ukrainian counteroffensive going?

Is First Stage Of Ukranian Counteroffensive Really Failed

34 posted on 06/07/2023 8:58:14 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: blitz128
Putin's luxury retreat on the Crimea will be for sale cheap.

No to the floating mine idea since Russian troops already admitted mining it on social media last year. In any case it would have to have been a really huge mine packing several tons of HE.

And he would have had a mobile buddy mine of the same or greater size hop into an open window of the hydroelectric plant.

But yes it was a smoking accident obviously - never smoke around tons of HE


35 posted on 06/07/2023 9:11:54 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF; All

Pathetic Humans

https://twitter.com/antiputler_news/status/1666475885300445193


36 posted on 06/07/2023 9:14:03 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: Kazan

Kazan is the name of a city in RuZZia.

Is that where you live?


37 posted on 06/07/2023 9:15:20 AM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (RuZZia is the enemy of all mankind)
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To: wildcard_redneck

And there is the proof that you haven’t a clue. This isn’t WWII and it took more than one skipping bomb.

And it was in Russian controlled territory with the only access through Russian troops.

And Russia controls the air space over the dam and power plant.

And the explosions happened INSIDE the dam and the hydroelectric power plant. There was more than one main explosion obviously


38 posted on 06/07/2023 9:16:57 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

You made the claim that there is no way to bust a dam other than “RuZZians” on the ground planting explosives in place. That is your mistake, not mine. Sorry not sorry that I made you look foolish.


39 posted on 06/07/2023 9:21:25 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: PIF

It wouldn’t surprise me if they miscalculated the size of the explosion and/or didnt understand the power of rushing water

Regardless or irregardless lol, as someone much “smarter “ than me pointed out yesterday Russia does not have inept leaders 😎


40 posted on 06/07/2023 9:33:10 AM PDT by blitz128
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