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Lock was cut on gate barring road (VANDALS CUT LOCK ON GATE - JAMES KIM STORY)
MSNBC / The Associated Press ^ | 12/8/06 | Not Listed

Posted on 12/08/2006 3:50:26 PM PST by paulat

Lock was cut on gate barring road San Francisco man died close to feed, shelter in wilderness, officials say The Associated Press Updated: 3:25 p.m. PT Dec 8, 2006 CENTRAL POINT, Ore. - A San Francisco man who got stranded with his family in the snowy wilderness had taken a wrong turn in the car down a logging road that is normally blocked by a gate, but vandals had cut the lock, authorities said Friday.

James Kim, 35, was found dead of exposure in a mountain creek Wednesday, two days after his wife and the couple's two daughters were rescued from the car.

The gate had been locked for the winter Nov. 1, after the end of deer hunting season, so that "people don't mistakenly go down that road," said Patty Burel, spokeswoman for the federal Bureau of Land Management.

Searchers looking for the family found the gate open, Burel said. An investigation is under way to find out who cut the lock.

The one-lane strip of pavement known as Bear Camp Road is often used in summer by Rogue River rafters and in winter by hunters, cross-country skiers and families cutting Christmas trees.

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To: RainMan

mostly it's just media needing to fill up their "quota" of daily "happenings"
could you imagine what it would have been like to have this kind of coverage when the 1800s pioneers were crossing the continent to the west?


21 posted on 12/08/2006 5:24:34 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: RainMan; Jeff Head

My son is in Scouts. One of the reasons is that I think this skill is so important. Ask Jeff Head about the need to train young men in survival tactics. You get lost in Idaho and that's it.


22 posted on 12/08/2006 5:29:17 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: RainMan

Ut oh watch out you might get the twaddle word hurled at you. I think he was ill prepared and would have been better off staying with the car. He tried to get help for his family but failed. A hero would have gotten the help. I believe the correct term for this man may be a tragic hero. This whole story is so sad and its a shame but maybe now people will be more alert to where they are going and how to be prepared for driving in unknown places. Prayers for his family.


23 posted on 12/08/2006 5:46:52 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: BunnySlippers
Sadly, I heard a person doing the retrospective on all that happened from day one and the woman heard helicopters very early on while they were still all in the car....if I remember correctly.

Seems that everything that could go wrong, went wrong. A tragedy that cannot be undone.

We hope and pray that the family finds some peace and that many who think to take such trips will think about preparations for such excursions.

24 posted on 12/08/2006 5:51:14 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: pandoraou812
Well, you're just sooo perfect. This is no place for recriminations and bragging about what you do!

It's a place for some heartfelt advice and prayers for the family.

25 posted on 12/08/2006 5:53:13 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: OldFriend
It's a place for some heartfelt advice and prayers for the family.

Thx, Friend! You know what we all meant!

It's so irritating after all these days to have someone come up and sanctimoniously say the "carry a flashlight in your car" cr@p!!!

26 posted on 12/08/2006 5:58:37 PM PST by paulat (about)
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To: OldFriend

Very nice summation.


27 posted on 12/08/2006 6:04:58 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Never Forget / SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: OldFriend

Read my posts before you attack me. I CLEARLY gave advice and I have been praying for this family since day 1. As for perfect please show me where I claim to be sooooooo perfect. You can't. Because I never claimed to be nor did I deserve to get the twaddle word hurled at me . And thanks for calling me perfect, I don't hear that often. As for bragging about what I do, it makes sense to call home and tell people where you are. Prayers for the Kim family and you have a nice night now.


28 posted on 12/08/2006 6:10:01 PM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: BunnySlippers; paulat; surfer

Surfer posted some new links with new information here...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1750731/posts


29 posted on 12/08/2006 6:14:33 PM PST by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: All

That's not the thread of course. I will try again...


30 posted on 12/08/2006 6:18:11 PM PST by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: tubebender; BunnySlippers; surfer

Thanks so much...Admin Mod, pls delete my thread...it has been ruined by some nasty comments. I'll let surfer's thread take over.


31 posted on 12/08/2006 6:19:02 PM PST by paulat (about)
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To: paulat; surfer

Surfers links were on the Big Thread. I was going to link them and messed up the formating. Giving up here..


32 posted on 12/08/2006 6:26:29 PM PST by tubebender (Growing old is mandatory...Growing up is optional)
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To: PeterFinn

reminds me of the things you see about kids stealing a stop sign and then someone dying as a result of running thru what was a stop.


33 posted on 12/08/2006 6:29:14 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: rogue yam

He is dead. What does it matter whether people want to absolve him or not. He is dead. Let it rest.


34 posted on 12/08/2006 6:30:32 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Doohickey

If he couldn't get a consistent cell phone signal (yes there was a ping but not a consistent signal) then he probably couldn't get a signal from the GPS satellite either. Please correct me if I'm wrong.


35 posted on 12/08/2006 6:37:46 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: scrabblehack

Not necessarily true. You can get a GPS signal wherever you can get a clear view of the sky, unlike cell phones which use terrestrial towers.


36 posted on 12/08/2006 6:55:06 PM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: paulat

Any way you figure it California lost one of the very few real men it had left.
His actions were that of a man.
He stood for his family.
He earned the TITLE; of MAN
He did it as too few would these days.


37 posted on 12/08/2006 7:10:01 PM PST by warriorfor honor (With out us they die)
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To: warriorfor honor
He earned the TITLE; of MAN

Thanks, warrior...you sum it up very well....

38 posted on 12/08/2006 7:12:30 PM PST by paulat (about)
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To: GinaLolaB
I dislike Vandals very much

Goths are a pain, too. I'm ok with Alans.

39 posted on 12/08/2006 7:37:33 PM PST by Defiant (Obama as President would make us an Obama Nation.)
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To: paulat
He worked for CNET...I also work in tech. If I am going somewhere, I print out a map from the biggest map services.

He worked at CNET and got everything for free. Where was his satellite phone? GPS? CB radio? Hello?

40 posted on 12/08/2006 7:45:51 PM PST by montag813
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