Posted on 01/31/2014 5:44:59 PM PST by Kevmo
Start-up purchases controversial cold fusion nuclear reactor E-cat - Let's see if it works
01/26/2014
A North Carolina based company called Industrial Heat LLC has come out and admitted that it now owns Andrea Rossis ecat low energy nuclear reaction (LENR) technology. Industrial Heat has put out a press release in which it confirmed rumors that it had spent $11 million to purchase Rossis device.
The press release also confirmed speculation that Tom Darden of Cherokee Investment Partners a North Carolina equity fund is a principal investor in Industrial heat. It stated that one of Dardens associates J.T. Vaughn is the manager of Industrial Heat LLC. Industrial Heat LLC is based in the Research Triangle region around Raleigh, North Carolina where many technology companies have operations. Cherokees website describes Vaughn as a Senior Analyst at the firm.
Vaughn said that his company had acquired the intellectual property rights to the Ecat in the press release. Vaughn and Darden were convinced of the Ecats authenticity by a report prepared by physics professors Guiseppe Levi, Hanno Essen, Ronald Petterson, Torbojorn Hartman, Bo Hoistad, Roland Pettersson and Lars Tegner. The scientists tested the ecat in December 2012 and March 2013 and observed its operations. Vaughn and Darden also had an unidentified independent expert exam the ecat before investing their money in it.
The press release stated that Industrial Heat has prepared numerous patent applications to protect ecat technology but wouldnt elaborate. The release didnt say if any of these applications have been filed or not.
The world needs a new, clean and efficient energy source, Vaugh said of his reasons for acquiring Ecat in the press release. Such a technology would raise the standard of living in developing countries and reduce the environmental impact of producing energy.
The press release stated that Industrial Heat wants to enter into partnerships with other companies, universities and nongovernment organizations (NGOs) to develop LENR technology. It didnt identify any of these partners or mention any specific uses for Ecat technology.
Predictably and sadly the cold fusion skeptics have already started attacking Industrial Heat. The Gizmodo blog is claiming that Darden and Vaughn were bamboozled and bought a reactor that might not actually work. Typically the skeptics provide absolutely no proof for their accusations they just make them and hope nobody questions their statements. Those who criticize Rossi for not verifying claims turn around and do exactly the same thing.
Tom Darden
Vaughn and Darden seem like hardhead and sensible businessmen who have done their homework. They actually looked into Ecat and got the facts before investing. Gizmodo mentions Rossis criminal conviction but doesnt mention the involvement of distinguished professors such as Guiseppe Levi in the ecat project.
Industrial Heats confirmation is very good news, despite the skeptics. Its the biggest investment so far in cold fusion and it proves there are far sighted businessmen interested in commercializing this important technology. Hopefully Industrial Heat will be able to commercialize the Ecat and looking into other LENR devices such asthose at Brillouin.
I also hope that Industrial Heats brave stand will inspire other investors to put their money behind low energy nuclear reaction. We need massive investment in this technology now.
“Rossi has referred to such testing as ongoing and that it will result in published results.”
Rossi said he would be delivering commercial units in the first quarter of 2014. Duh!
How much did the first Apple computer cost to make in a garage?
Not every breakthrough is driven just by dollars.
Over promising is typical conduct for an independent inventor. Supposedly, according to journalist Mats Lewan, Rossi also acknowledged that he deliberately stirs doubts over his device in order to confuse and deter rivals.
“Rossi also acknowledged that he deliberately stirs doubts over his device in order to confuse and deter rivals.”
He was pretty adamant about delivering eCat in the first quarter of 2014. How many days left before the end of 1st Q 2014?
In making such a judgment, Lewan has the benefit of a journalist's close acquaintance with Rossi and his E-Cat and a Master of Science degree in Engineering Physics from the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm. Lewan is thus unusually well placed and intellectually equipped to understand the relevant scientific and technical issues. Lewan's conclusion is that Rossi's E-Cat or a similar device by a competitor may develop into a practical application of "cold fusion."
In the early stages, major scientific and technical innovations often provoke a chorus of denunciations by experts that the innovation is impossible and a fraud. Perhaps Rossi and other E-Cat researchers are all sloppy and self-deluded or are outright frauds. Then again, maybe not.
” Lewan’s conclusion is that Rossi’s E-Cat or a similar device by a competitor may develop into a practical application of “cold fusion.”
ML comments on some of the shoddy testing ...
http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?p=1565
“Lewan’s conclusion is that Rossi’s E-Cat or a similar device by a competitor may develop into a practical application of “cold fusion.”
From ML’s mouth (”I could be wrong”):
“Personally, this is absolutely my personal assessment, Im quite confident that it works. Of course I couldnt prove it; I could be wrong;:
This dude has seen NO proof of eCat and admits he could be wrong but he has a feeling that it works! Of course he is selling a book also ...
ML’s boss writes “Cold Shower for Cold Fusion” and ML does not cover it because ‘it is not a story’!
Duh, when your boss writes an article like that and then refuses to publish anymore in his ‘magazine’ it IS a story; just one ML does not want to tell.
http://shutdownrossi.com/rossis-partners-investors/mats-lewan/rossi-cons-mats-lewan-again/
Mats Lewan is the only ‘mainstream’ writer for eCat. Nice to have him on your side ...
“Perhaps Rossi and other E-Cat researchers are all sloppy and self-deluded or are outright frauds. “
“Fig. 10. Flange of the E-Cat HT2 used for the March test. The flange is meant to facilitate insertion of the device in a heat exchanger”
They already had a flange for insertion into a heat exchanger. Why not insert it into a heat exchanger and do a proper calorimetric?
Look at Fig. 5 and the placement of the IR camera. All their credibility is place on ONE cheap IR camera badly located.
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And just below the...
...beta specs
That paper is detailed and concludes that "The results obtained indicate that energy was produced in decidedly higher quantities than what may be gained from any conventional source."
Similarly, Rossi's North Carolina venture fund partners required that the E-Cat pass third party testing before they made their investment. Due diligence would have required that any defects in prior tests be remedied.
Yet even the most positive and ironclad test results will not be accepted as scientifically satisfactory unless Rossi makes E-Cats readily available for testing by all comers and reveals the details of their construction and the specifics of his so far secret catalyst. Someone must then provide a persuasive theory to explain the positive results, with everything peer reviewed and then published in credible scientific journals.
Those constraints make sense in an academic context but conflict with essential business considerations. A key inhibition against an open testing regimen is that Rossi and his North Caroline partners must fear that premature disclosure of the details of the E-Cat would compromise the value of their intellectual property and the prospects for full commercial success.
As any patent lawyer will explain, a patent is only a license to sue. With much of the world having political and legal systems that endorse intellectual piracy by favored nationals, even a full set of international patents backed by teams of lawyers rarely provides meaningful recourse against copycat manufacturers.
Rossi's business partners seem to hope to preempt rivals by having a commercial model of E-Cat produced and ready for sale before the details of another round of third party tests are reported publicly. They also seem to be in discussion with a potential Chinese partner, which could offer a way to limit that venue as a source of intellectual piracy and competing production of cheap knock offs.
If Rossi is truly a fraud as you insist that he is, he will suffer exposure soon enough. Swindled American investors and business partners will then have recourse to US civil and criminal remedies against fraud. On balance, I think it unlikely that someone in their mid-60s would deliberately embark on such a scam and risk spending their last years in court and with possible bankruptcy and prison. Then again, as you adamantly and correctly insist, nothing can be taken as proved until it is in fact proved.
“On balance, I think it unlikely that someone in their mid-60s would deliberately embark on such a scam and risk spending their last years in court and with possible bankruptcy and prison. “
I guess that is why Rossi doesn’t have a website and doesn’t publish anything.
“You neglect the tests by an Italian and Swedish team in December of 2012 and March of 2013”
That are the ones we have been discussing. You linked it earlier and I made at least two references to it showing how poorly setup the tests were. Perhaps you just forgot.
“Rossi’s business partners seem to hope to preempt rivals by having a commercial model of E-Cat produced and ready for sale before the details of another round of third party tests are reported publicly. “
Rossi said he would be delivering his units to customers in the 1Q 2014.
“That paper is detailed and concludes that “The results obtained indicate that energy was produced in decidedly higher quantities than what may be gained from any conventional source.”
I have a special light bulb that I use to heat my house. I touched and boy it was hot. I concluded that temperature indicated it was producing higher quantities that what may be gained from conventional light bulbs. Must be LENR in action. Send me your money.
You are not just a skeptci but an adamant disbeliever. In summary form, what convinces you that “cold fusion” is utterly and completely impossible?
“You are not just a skeptci but an adamant disbeliever. In summary form, what convinces you that cold fusion is utterly and completely impossible?”
I have a device that I put on my car’s carburetor. It improved my mileage by 20%. I have two more available. Send my $19.95 plus shipping and I will send you one.
” In summary form, what convinces you that cold fusion is utterly and completely impossible?”
Travel to Mars is possible but I am not buying tickets from someone that has spent five years in prison for fraud.
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