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New paper-like material could boost electric vehicle batteries
Phys.Org ^ | Feb 18, 2015 | by Sean Nealon

Posted on 02/22/2015 10:55:50 AM PST by Red Badger

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1 posted on 02/22/2015 10:55:51 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; sausageseller; ...

Battery Ping!................


2 posted on 02/22/2015 10:56:32 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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I hear you, Badger.

That is I would be able to hear you if these new batteries were available for my hearing aids.

Good Report!

3 posted on 02/22/2015 11:06:06 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Muslims in the USA? Not a very good idea.)
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To: Red Badger

Thanks for the post.


4 posted on 02/22/2015 11:09:13 AM PST by ifinnegan
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100 times thinner

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Ah ha! Negative space. Crafty..


5 posted on 02/22/2015 11:10:01 AM PST by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Red Badger

But any resultant automobile equipped with this new technology will still ultimately run on coal, and have a larger overall negative environmental impact than a conventional gasoline engine. All of these ‘science’ articles have a greenie-weenie subtext.


6 posted on 02/22/2015 11:11:24 AM PST by SpaceBar
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Soon the hearing aid will be the battery!..............


7 posted on 02/22/2015 11:11:42 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: SpaceBar

Of course. The MSM is green with envy................


8 posted on 02/22/2015 11:12:38 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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Negative or positive?.............


9 posted on 02/22/2015 11:13:17 AM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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The issue I have with lithium-ion batteries, is not the energy density so much. The caution I have is that if you pack the amount of energy in a container equal to the amount you would have with hydrocarbon fuels, it would be the equivalent to storing both the fuel and the oxidizer in the same tank.

You essentially have a bomb... This doesn’t alleviate this problem, it makes it worse.


10 posted on 02/22/2015 11:16:26 AM PST by babygene
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How much Toxic Waste is produced making this paper-like material ?


11 posted on 02/22/2015 11:29:02 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Red Badger

I’m convinced that nanotechnology will bring unseen breakthroughs in battery technology. And you’ll be able to see each and every one ridiculed by the science-class flunkouts right here on FR.


12 posted on 02/22/2015 11:39:07 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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Alternating.


13 posted on 02/22/2015 12:48:00 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Red Badger

This sounds similar to some MIT research on “solid state” batteries. With electric vehicles in the 35 (Volt) to around 250 (Tesla) range at present, I hope we see a tripling. Not a greenie, but I do not believe West Texas Intermediate will be around $50 per barrel for more than a few years. And I like to drive.

We need to change the name from “ping” to “ZAP” list.


14 posted on 02/22/2015 2:57:02 PM PST by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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It is my strong opinion that Texas Intermediate Crude will go higher than $80/bbl (inflation adjusted) for NO LONGER than 4 months ever again in the next 100 years. The amount of shale gas&oil available in the USA will place severe limits on what the market will bear. The average monthly price will be at or under $65/bbl. Many economic and technological factors will contribute to this. OPEC is now dead as a long-term economic force though of course they can cause short term (major) pain and dislocations any time they wish.


15 posted on 02/22/2015 3:46:10 PM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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That’s really an interesting take, and I hope it is true. I hear a repeated refrain that fracked oil wells peak and output diminishes quickly after 2 to 4 years. It made sense economically with oil above $110 per barrel, but not at half that. That’s what I hear from one side, and they claim to have the well-life data to back it up.

And Venezuela needs $110 per barrel oil for its government to stay afloat. Persistent costs below that rate and it is coup time. So I really hope you are right.

Viva la Revolucion!


16 posted on 02/22/2015 6:17:16 PM PST by bajabaja (Too ugly to be scanned at the airports.)
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“But any resultant automobile equipped with this new technology will still ultimately run on coal, and have a larger overall negative environmental impact than a conventional gasoline engine.”

Coal makes up less than 40% of our electricity generation nationwide. The other 60% comes from much cleaner sources like natural gas, nuclear, and hydro. Furthermore, in the states where most EVs are sold, the proportion that comes from coal is far less than 40%.

Only if you live in the heart of coal country is it worse to drive an electric car than a gasmobile.

Besides, we should prefer to drive on American-made electricity, regardless of the source, rather than remain dependent on oil which has so many geopolitical downsides. People forget that even as we have become the world's #1 oil producer, we still have to import 18% of our oil from OPEC.

17 posted on 02/22/2015 7:42:27 PM PST by LogicDesigner
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Coal is a euphemism for traditional energy sources, it wasn't meant literally.
18 posted on 02/22/2015 7:47:53 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Red Badger
Thanks for the Ping.
Another round of Model airplanes leaving the sky with a loud bang coming up....
Battery research is now advancing through the 'steam age', at last. :)
19 posted on 02/23/2015 12:01:18 AM PST by moose07 (The Camels have reached the parking lot. Shields up!)
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For now, if the Chinese are successful with Thorium then perhaps we’ll have a way to safely retire coal, or use the much cheaper electricity to transform coal to diesel.


20 posted on 02/23/2015 6:08:20 AM PST by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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