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Dog Owners Threatened With $750,000 Fine Over Missing Dog Posters
NBC Washington ^ | Sunday, Apr 12, 2015 | Darcy Spencer

Posted on 04/12/2015 4:08:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Roger Horowitz was out Friday, ripping down fliers he posted about his missing dog, Ollie — not because the dog has been found, but because he's afraid of being hit with the huge fine.

Horowitz and his wife, Annemarie, had recently adopted Ollie, a rescue dog that had been shot in Georgia.

"He'd been abused by his previous owner and actually shot with a shotgun," Horowitz said. "So he has about 23 pellets still in his back."

On March 30, Horowitz was walking Ollie near Georgia Avenue and Euclid Street NW when the dog broke loose.

"A car just backfired, and he suddenly just bolted and managed to get away with the leash," he said. He filed a missing dog report, and said he was initially encouraged by police to post fliers.

Volunteers helped put out thousands of them — but then a phone call changed everything

The couple said they got a call from a D.C. officer, saying the signs had to come down or they'd face a hefty fine

"So he told me that regardless if we put up the fliers, or if other people put them up, we had made the original flier that had my phone number, and that we could get fined up to 750,000," Horowitz said.

News4 asked D.C. police about the sign rules and fines. Authorities said sent a list of regulations about posting fliers. The rules say that violations can result in a $300 fine. It's unclear if that's per sign.

The Horowitzes say they'd like to see the law change to help people looking for missing pets and loved ones. "It's kind of this big unknown, of what can we do next?" said Annemarie Horowit. "What should we do to find our dog?"

They hope their social media campaign, #FindOllie, will help them do just that.

Here are the regulations provided by the Metropolitican police with the relevant section in bold. DC Municipal Regulations

Chapter 24 – Public Space and Safety

108 SIGNS, POSTERS, AND PLACARDS

108.1 No person shall affix a sign, advertisement, or poster to any public lamppost or appurtenances of a lamppost, except as provided in accordance with this section.

108.2 The placing of any advertisement on any tree in public space is prohibited.

108.3 No poster or placard shall be publicly displayed or exhibited if it is lewd, indecent, or vulgar, or if it pictorially represents the commission of or the attempt to commit any crime.

108.4 Any sign, advertisement, or poster that does not relate to the sale of goods or services may be affixed on public lampposts or appurtenances of a lamppost, subject to the restrictions set forth in this section.

108.5 A sign, advertisement, or poster shall be affixed for no more than one hundred eighty (180) days.

108.6 A sign, advertisement, or poster related to a specific event shall be removed no later than thirty (30) days following the event to which it is related. This subsection does not extend the time limit in subsection 108.5.

108.7 Each sign, advertisement, or poster shall contain the date upon which it was initially affixed to a lamppost.

108.8 Each sign, advertisement, or poster shall be affixed securely to avoid being torn or disengaged by normal weather conditions.

108.9 Signs, advertisements, and posters shall not be affixed by adhesives that prevent their complete removal from the fixture, or that do damage to the fixture.

108.10 No more than three (3) versions or copies of each sign, advertisement, or poster shall be affixed on one (1) side of a street within one (1) block.

108.11 Within twenty-four (24) hours of posting each sign, advertisement, or poster, two (2) copies of the material shall be filed with an agent of the District of Columbia so designated by the Mayor. The filing shall include the name, address, and telephone number of the originator of the sign, advertisement, or poster, and if the sign is for an event, the date of the event.

108.12 For purposes of this section, a "public lamppost" is any public post erected for the purpose of supporting electric wires.

108.13 For purposes of this section, the term “event” refers to an occurrence, happening, activity or series of activities, specific to an identifiable time and place, if referenced on the poster itself or reasonably determined from all circumstances by the inspector.

Additionally, DCMR Title 24, Chapter 100.6 States:

100.6 Any person violating any provision of this title for which a specific penalty is not provided shall, upon conviction, be punished by a fine of not more than three hundred dollars ($300).


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: districtofcolumbia; dog; dogs; missing; poster; posters; washington; washingtondc
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1 posted on 04/12/2015 4:08:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 04/12/2015 4:10:39 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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"So he told me that regardless if we put up the fliers, or if other people put them up, we had made the original flier that had my phone number, and that we could get fined up to 750,000,"

Police.

Can't live with 'em,

But we are going to have to learn to live without 'em.

3 posted on 04/12/2015 4:11:05 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: nickcarraway

Increasingly governments at all levels are using criminal law fines as “revenue enhancers.” Such a practice is totally corrupt as it places the prosecuting authority in the position of an interested party.(Conflict of interest.)


4 posted on 04/12/2015 4:15:33 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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I doubt police took it upon themselves to make the ordinance.


5 posted on 04/12/2015 4:17:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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"So he told me that regardless if we put up the fliers, or if other people put them up, we had made the original flier that had my phone number, and that we could get fined up to 750,000,"

That brings to mind a whole new way to SWAT someone!

6 posted on 04/12/2015 4:18:16 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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insanity


7 posted on 04/12/2015 4:24:36 PM PDT by GeronL (CLEARLY CRUZ 2016)
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To: cripplecreek

The police originally told him to post fliers.


8 posted on 04/12/2015 4:27:32 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Sounds like a job for the Institute for Justice. As far as I can tell based on the article the only law they broke was failing to file that BS notice. How would they be responsible for someone posting more than the permitted posters?


9 posted on 04/12/2015 4:32:14 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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perversion of justice is a bottomless pit.


10 posted on 04/12/2015 4:33:13 PM PDT by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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“108.4 Any sign, advertisement, or poster that does not relate to the sale of goods or services may be affixed on public lampposts or appurtenances of a lamppost, subject to the restrictions set forth in this section”

Am I not understanding something? Doesn’t this allow for their lost dog posters?


11 posted on 04/12/2015 4:33:14 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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I agree the law and the threat of fines stinks. Fortunately they can still post notices and distribute fliers at private businesses and residences with the owner’s permission. I bet there are places that have bulletin boards just for such fliers.


12 posted on 04/12/2015 4:34:07 PM PDT by lastchance (Credo.)
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300 fine per flier

Possible $750,000 fine.

That is 2500 fliers.

Washington DC 68 sq miles.

Almost 37 per square mile.

Wikipedia list 1500 miles of public streets in Washington DC
Just guessing some of this isn’t accessible to common folk.

That is one every 1.6 miles on every street.

If they focused on the area the dog was lost say just 25% of the area. That makes it every .4 miles.

I could see how this could draw the cities attention.

Then are we support someone who choose to live in DC?


13 posted on 04/12/2015 4:34:51 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (EGO venit lego tantum titulus Posteri)
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I don’t understand why someone would ask police for advice on such matters.

However it is Washington DC.

I took a sign down that I’ve been walking past every day for at least 3 years.


14 posted on 04/12/2015 4:35:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Balding_Eagle

The police didn’t make the ordinance. It was the petty D.C. bureacracy and administration that did it. Don’t blame the Cops who are stuck enforcing baloney rules and regs created by the gov’t entities. Geez, some people want to blame the Cops for everything.


15 posted on 04/12/2015 4:36:19 PM PDT by flaglady47 (The useful idiots always go first)
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U B old skool....These days even SCOTUS agrees that cops can just make laws up as needed.


16 posted on 04/12/2015 4:37:58 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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17 posted on 04/12/2015 4:38:11 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Many pardons; I guess my privilege is showing.


18 posted on 04/12/2015 4:41:42 PM PDT by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: nickcarraway

I hope they find the poor puppy.


19 posted on 04/12/2015 4:48:06 PM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: nickcarraway

Government can just warm your heart sometimes.


20 posted on 04/12/2015 4:52:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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