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Trump vs. 'Conman' Reagan
American Thinker ^ | April 22, 2016 | Daniel John Sobieski

Posted on 04/22/2016 9:16:48 AM PDT by raptor22

When Donald Trump’s political credentials as a Republican and/or conservative are challenged, he likes to remind people that Ronald Reagan was a Democrat once and managed to evolve over time. Except that Reagan’s conversion was real and he had two terms as governor of California to prove his bona fides before he ran for president as a conservative Republican. As Reagan campaign manager Stu Spencer and speechwriter Ken Khachiagin note in a Real Clear Politics piece:

Yes, Ronald Reagan migrated from being a liberal Democrat to the gold standard for conservative Republicans. But Reagan’s views evolved over four decades’ worth of life experience, a philosophical journey that took place gradually. His conservative credentials didn’t emanate overnight to match the political season. His was a slow and thoughtful transformation from the 1930s to the 1960s. Trump’s appears to be a midnight conversion just in time for the Iowa caucuses.

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1 posted on 04/22/2016 9:16:48 AM PDT by raptor22
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To: raptor22

Why take 4 decades to evolve into a position when you can make swift transition to different position (and back) within one minute. We need a flexible leader who can be agile with his positions to keep everyone guessing.


2 posted on 04/22/2016 9:21:31 AM PDT by sagar
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Yes, Ronald Reagan migrated from being a liberal Democrat to the gold standard for conservative Republicans. But Reagan’s views evolved over four decades’ worth of life experience, a philosophical journey that took place gradually. His conservative credentials didn’t emanate overnight to match the political season. His was a slow and thoughtful transformation from the 1930s to the 1960s.

NONSENSE. A pack of lies spewed by #NeverTrump RINOS.

At the end of that "thoughtful transformation," in 1967, Reagan signed the most liberal abortion rights law in America...6 years before Roe v. Wade.

He also signed the Mulford Act, banning open carry in California. Reagan said he saw “no reason why on the street today a citizen should be carrying loaded weapons.” and that guns were a “ridiculous way to solve problems that have to be solved among people of good will.” In a later press conference, Reagan added that the Act “would work no hardship on the honest citizen.”

3 posted on 04/22/2016 9:22:45 AM PDT by montag813
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To: raptor22

Unlike Bush I, Romney, McCain, Bush II, Boenher, McConnel, Paul Ryan, Marco FoamBoy Rubio, Kasich, Ms. Graham, Bush III, Neil Savings and loan Bush who over the last 30 years have proven their conservative bone us fides.

What was that Mitt Romney said about Trump, “if Trump gets the republican nomination it will be the first time since Reagan that a conservative has not headed the republican ticket.” Yeah right.


4 posted on 04/22/2016 9:23:05 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rush is a low information talk show host concerning Ted sCruz and Marco foamboy Rubio.)
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5 posted on 04/22/2016 9:23:51 AM PDT by Bobalu (I'm spitting on my hands, and hoisting the black flag!)
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At this point in the 1980 Presidential campaign, it was still not a sure thing, according to the polls, that Reagan might possibly beat an incumbent President.

Everybody was against Reagan, it seemed, except the people. Even the Republican party, largely, was not particularly enthusiastic about him.

But it all turned out as simple as ABC.

Anybody But Carter.

And it could still be as simple as ABC.

Anybody But Clinton.


6 posted on 04/22/2016 9:25:38 AM PDT by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: Bobalu

It must be true, because my first thought was: Oh, Jesus.......


7 posted on 04/22/2016 9:26:10 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2016)
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To: raptor22

Trump registered as a Republican in 1988.

Most of the controversies over his public statements are due to social conservatives who want the Federal Govt. to move on issues that are actually the responsibility of States.


8 posted on 04/22/2016 9:26:21 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF TWO USA CITIZENS)
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To: raptor22

Why do Trump supporters have to insult Reagan?


9 posted on 04/22/2016 9:26:25 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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Reagan never, ever denounced FDR. To the end of his life he talked about the New Deal, but always held FDR in high esteem.

No question RR was far more conservative than Trump on a range of issues. But he focused on two or three major things (i.e., like Trump does with immigration and trade) and did not press on other things (such as downsizing government).

ANY president only has political ammunition for a couple of big things. If all Trump does is build the wall, limit immigration, and get our trade back to fair territory, he would go down as one of the all time greats.


10 posted on 04/22/2016 9:27:51 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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11 posted on 04/22/2016 9:28:19 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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I guess they think Reagan was GOPe.


12 posted on 04/22/2016 9:29:15 AM PDT by ChessExpert (It is not compassion when you use government to give other people's money away.)
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To: raptor22

Sorry I don’t buy that on Reagan. Reagan admired FDR and that never changed.

In re-exploring Reagan I find that he wasn’t very Conservative at all and was more Center Right, if that.

He was a Liberal New Deal Democrat till he was 51 years old and that never really left him.

What we have now with Reagan is the Myth vs the Reality.

Reagan was a great President but his record shows he was more Centrist than anything else.


13 posted on 04/22/2016 9:30:42 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: montag813

You are really lying about that. When Reagan was elected, the abortion bill was already on his desk. He was told to sign it and he did. Abortion wasn’t on the radar like it has been now for 40 years. Reagan regretted signing that and wrote extensively about the issue. What you wrote about it is deceptive.


14 posted on 04/22/2016 9:30:59 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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WHY DOES TRUMP HATER raptor22, AKADaniel John Sobieski, publish his own idiot column, WHICH INVOKES THE NAME RWR?


15 posted on 04/22/2016 9:32:53 AM PDT by onyx (You're here posting, so sign-up to DONATE MONTHLY!)
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To: SatinDoll

No, he registered as a Republican in 1987, but he became an Independent in 1991 and a Democrat in 2001.


16 posted on 04/22/2016 9:32:59 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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I know, conservatives give liberals a headache.


17 posted on 04/22/2016 9:34:21 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SatinDoll
Most of the controversies over his public statements are due to social conservatives who want the Federal Govt. to move on issues that are actually the responsibility of States.

Yep. Just look at the board yesterday & today.

The #NeverTrump Free Republic anklebiters are running with Matt Lauer's attempt to take out Trump yesterday.

Once again, Ashley Cruz, New York state roadkill, is shouting and snarking at Trump from the sidelines, safely out of the circle of the Media DeathStar's main weapon.

18 posted on 04/22/2016 9:36:15 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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I know, conservatives give liberals a headache.

So you've got to chug from your aspirin bottle every time you get on Free Republic, eh, nickienevertrumper?

19 posted on 04/22/2016 9:37:35 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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To: onyx; raptor22; nickcarraway
WHY DOES TRUMP HATER raptor22, AKADaniel John Sobieski, publish his own idiot column, WHICH INVOKES THE NAME RWR?

Because Sobieski [raptor22] is working against Trump on FR, like nicknevertrump... :)

20 posted on 04/22/2016 9:39:56 AM PDT by kiryandil (.)
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