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How Can We Save The Sun?
Universe Today ^ | 9/23/16 | Fraser Cain

Posted on 09/25/2016 6:21:25 PM PDT by LibWhacker

How Can We Save The Sun?

Published: 23 Sep , 2016

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Remember the movie Sunshine, where astronomers learn that the Sun is dying? So a plucky team of astronauts take a nuclear bomb to the Sun, and try to jump-start it with a massive explosion. Yeah, there’s so much wrong in that movie that I don’t know where to start. So I just won’t.

Seriously, a nuclear bomb to cure a dying Sun?

Here’s the thing, the Sun is actually dying. It’s just that it’s going to take about another 5 billion years to run of fuel in its core. And when it does, Cillian Murphy won’t be able to restart it with a big nuke.

But the Sun doesn’t have to die so soon. It’s made of the same hydrogen and helium as the much less massive red dwarf stars. And these stars are expected to last for hundreds of billions and even trillions of years.

Is there anything we can do to save the Sun, or jump-start it when it runs out of fuel in the core?

First, let me explain the problem. The Sun is a main sequence star, and it measures 1.4 million kilometers across. Like ogres and onions, the Sun is made of layers.

The interior structure of the Sun. Credit: Wikipedia Commons/kelvinsong

The interior structure of the Sun. Credit: Wikipedia Commons/kelvinsong

The innermost layer is the core. That’s the region where the temperature and pressure is so great that atoms of hydrogen are mashed together so tightly they can fuse into helium. This fusion reaction is exothermic, which means that it gives off more energy than it consumes.

The excess energy is released as gamma radiation, which then makes its way through the star and out into space. The radiation pushes outward, and counteracts the inward force of gravity pulling it together. This balance creates the Sun we know and love.

Outside the core, temperatures and pressures drop to the point that fusion can no longer happen. This next region is known as the radiative zone. It’s plenty hot, and the photons of gamma radiation generated in the core of the Sun need to bounce randomly from atom to atom, maybe for hundreds of thousands of years to finally escape. But it’s not hot enough for fusion to happen.

Outside the radiative zone is the convective zone. This is where the material in the Sun is finally cool enough that it can move around like a lava lamp. Hot blobs of plasma pick up enormous heat from the radiative zone, float up to the surface of the Sun, release their heat and then sink down again.

The only fuel the Sun can use for fusion is in the core, which accounts for only 0.8% of the Sun’s volume and 34% of its mass. When it uses up that hydrogen in the core, it’ll blow off its outer layers into space and then shrink down into a white dwarf.

The radiative zone acts like a wall, preventing the mixing convective zone from reaching the solar core.

If the Sun was all convective zone, then this wouldn’t be a problem, it would be able to go on mixing its fuel, using up all its hydrogen instead of this smaller fraction. If the Sun was more like a red dwarf, it could last much longer.

GJ1214b, shown in this artist’s view, is a super-Earth orbiting a red dwarf star 40 light-years from Earth. Credit: NASA, ESA, and D. Aguilar (Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics)

Red dwarf stars burn for much longer than our Sun. Credit: NASA, ESA, and D. Aguilar (Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics)

In order to save the Sun, to help it last longer than the 5 billion years it has remaining, we would need some way to stir up the Sun with a gigantic mixing spoon. To get that unburned hydrogen from the radiative and convective zones down into the core.

One idea is that you could crash another star into the Sun. This would deliver fresh fuel, and mix up the Sun’s hydrogen a bit. But it would be a one time thing. You’d need to deliver a steady stream of stars to keep mixing it up. And after a while you would accumulate enough mass to create a supernova. That would be bad.

But another option would be to strip material off the Sun and create red dwarfs. Stars with less than 35% the mass of the Sun are fully convective. Which means that they don’t have a radiative zone. They fully mix all their hydrogen fuel into the core, and can last much longer.

Imagine a future civilization tearing the Sun into 3 separate stars, each of which could then last for hundreds of billions of years, putting out only 1.5% the energy of the Sun. Huddle up for warmth.

But if you want to take this to the extreme, tear the Sun into 13 separate red dwarf stars with only 7.5% the mass of the Sun. These will only put out .015% the light of the Sun, but they’ll sip away at their hydrogen for more than 10 trillion years.

Stick the Earth in the middle and you'd have some very odd sunsets, not to mention orbital dynamics. Created with Universe Sandbox ²

Stick the Earth in the middle and you’d have some very odd sunrises and sunsets, not to mention orbital dynamics. Created with Universe Sandbox ²

But how can you get that hydrogen off the Sun? Lasers, of course. Using a concept known as stellar lifting, you could direct a powerful solar powered laser at a spot on the Sun’s surface. This would heat up the region, and generate a powerful solar wind. The Sun would be blasting its own material into space. Then you could use magnetic fields or gravity to direct the outflows and collect them into other stars. It boggles our imagination, but it would be a routine task for Type III Civilization engineers on star dismantling duty.

So don’t panic that our Sun only has a few billion years of life left. We’ve got options. Mind bendingly complicated, solar system dismantling options. But still… options.



TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: convective; core; dismantle; dysonsphere; haltonarp; kic8462852; radiative; sun; tabbysstar; zone
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Don't scream at me, please. I'm just doing what I can to keep the general panic and hysteria down. ;-)
1 posted on 09/25/2016 6:21:25 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Send liberals there? :)


2 posted on 09/25/2016 6:24:26 PM PDT by TBP (0bama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: LibWhacker

Peak sun.

Raise taxes.


3 posted on 09/25/2016 6:25:36 PM PDT by IncPen (I just found out that PIAPS is a reference to the "Pig In A Pants Suit". Ha! #NeverHillary)
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Actually, it’s been estimated that Earth has only 500 million years of habitability left because the sun expands as it ages and by then we will be out of the habitable zone due to REAL global warming.


4 posted on 09/25/2016 6:26:22 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day")
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To: LibWhacker

This is Anthropogenic Solar Decay or ASD. Please fund my foundation to stop it. I will be seeking grants tomorrow.


5 posted on 09/25/2016 6:26:28 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: LibWhacker

Let’s start a GoFundMe site- Save Our Sun!


6 posted on 09/25/2016 6:26:48 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Vote Trump. Defeat the Clinton Crime Syndicate. Reset America.)
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Don’t worry about the sun. The Earth will stay warm with all the CO2 in the atmosphere. /s


7 posted on 09/25/2016 6:29:10 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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Save the Sun?

This looks like a job for...Cow Patti.

8 posted on 09/25/2016 6:30:35 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (It is a wise man who rules by the polls but it is a fool who is ruled by them)
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Background music— Paul wrote this when a young lad pre-Beatles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgCkeYGlNXc


9 posted on 09/25/2016 6:30:57 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny (agent Able Deplor))
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“Send liberals there? :)”

GMTA. I was gonna type that but got beat by a few seconds. I want my participation trophy..


10 posted on 09/25/2016 6:31:06 PM PDT by max americana (fired every liberal in our company at every election cycle..and laughed at their faces (true story))
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To: LibWhacker

Ask Al Gore.


11 posted on 09/25/2016 6:31:14 PM PDT by MisterArtery
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get rid of all libs.


12 posted on 09/25/2016 6:31:28 PM PDT by ColdOne ((poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Hillary Clinton......unfit to serve, shovel ready. I am deplorable.))
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To: LibWhacker

If you’re a long-term investor, buy real estate on Mercury.


13 posted on 09/25/2016 6:32:09 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: LibWhacker

The Sun is dying. The Universe is dying although at a slower rate than I am.


14 posted on 09/25/2016 6:33:11 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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"One idea is that you could crash another star into the Sun."

Yeah, sure. Good idea!

15 posted on 09/25/2016 6:34:52 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberals are locusts.)
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welp, if we can cause climate change we can do this!


16 posted on 09/25/2016 6:36:26 PM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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Reminds me of an old 70’s episode of The Sixth Sense, where a young boy can predict future events and becomes a celebrity. The boy is on a television talk show and tells the host that something will happen very soon but he forgets the word to describe it. After a few moments he remembers the word and says the sun will go supernova.


17 posted on 09/25/2016 6:36:48 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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"...the Sun is actually dying. It’s just that it’s going to take about another 5 billion years to run of fuel in its core. "

Call us in 4,999,999,999 years and we'll consider listening to your hair-brained scheme. Now buzz off!

18 posted on 09/25/2016 6:36:50 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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One idea is that you could crash another star into the Sun. This would deliver fresh fuel, and mix up the Sun’s hydrogen a bit. But it would be a one time thing.

I was SURE I had the math right.

19 posted on 09/25/2016 6:40:19 PM PDT by TChad
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"One idea is that you could crash another star into the Sun. "

Fortunately for this guy, I still have my "Let's Make A Deal" outfit, and now that I look in the jacket pocket there is a hard boiled egg, a rubber band, paper clip, and yup, spare star right here.

20 posted on 09/25/2016 6:40:27 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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