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Seattle judge blocks Trump immigration order
Reuters ^ | February 3, 2017 | Scott Malone and Dan Levine

Posted on 02/03/2017 4:38:49 PM PST by Pinkbell

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To: Voluntaryist

Rudy in a previous interview had said that he told Trump you couldn’t ban people based on religion, and Rudy didn’t support that. However, he said you could restrict on areas of terror. I believe Trump stopped talking about a Muslim ban prior to the convention (correct me if I’m wrong).


61 posted on 02/03/2017 5:17:09 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: libertylover

Excellent post. Thank you for putting this matter into a legally relevant context. :)


62 posted on 02/03/2017 5:18:03 PM PST by Starboard
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To: phoneman08

Indeed. Trump’s order is overturned (for now).


63 posted on 02/03/2017 5:18:04 PM PST by Pinkbell (http://dtforpres.blogspot.com/2016/11/cnn-lies-multiple-times-to-help-hillary.html)
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To: dsm69

Trump should then instruct border security that all immigrants must have a few more documents in hand before they are allowed in. Maybe request stamped original birth certificates, copies of their school grades, 50 letters of reference. He is not technically enforcing the ban, just requiring a little more paperwork. Make it much more difficult to enter.
That will give him time until this stupid ruling gets overturned. Drown the applicants with requested paperwork. That will slow them down.


64 posted on 02/03/2017 5:18:14 PM PST by kaila
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To: Pinkbell

The Left will keep filing these until they get a judge who has his head firmly implanted.

The other case died this morning.

Why can the Left keep filing these over and over and over again? Do these judges have authority or not?

Once it’s reviewed, it should be over.


65 posted on 02/03/2017 5:18:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (NeverTrump, a movement that was revealed to be a movement. Thank heaven we flushed!)
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To: Pinkbell
Wiki:

On December 9, 2003, James L.Robart was nominated by President George W. Bush to a seat on the United States District Court for the Western District of Washington vacated by Thomas S. Zilly. Robart was confirmed by the United States Senate on June 17, 2004, and received his commission on June 21, 2004. He took senior status on June 28, 2016.

Good Grief ...

66 posted on 02/03/2017 5:19:34 PM PST by 11th_VA (Resistance is Futile !!!!)
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To: libertylover

Since when has that ever stopped any of these degenerate scumbags ?

Trump with a shot for a teachable moment

Humiliate this lawless bastard


67 posted on 02/03/2017 5:21:01 PM PST by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA-SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS-CLOSE ALL MOSQUES)
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To: All

SC is 4-4 at best so a lower court stands. If they appeal you are accepting the court had standing no? It seems to me Trump should just ignore and have DHS carry out his EO. Otherwise the left will just keep finding friendly judges.


68 posted on 02/03/2017 5:22:21 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: only1percent

Exactly. If we don’t have an executive subject to the rule of law, we don’t have anything. I used to tell lefties that if you would be worried about a republican president having this power, you don’t want obama to have it. Now, I tell people that if you didn’t want Obama having this power, you shouldn’t give it to Trump. A vision of the executive power that relies on only the good guys ever taking office is a recipe for disaster.

These are temporary stays, and courts are mostly encouraged to issue them because there is so much uncertainty about what is going on. As the administration clarifies exactly what’s going on and people aren’t left in limbo in airports, the rationale for a stay dissipates.

Much better to let the legal process work (and keep appointing judges) than to declare the executive branch only has to obey the judicial branch when it feels like it.


69 posted on 02/03/2017 5:22:34 PM PST by socalgop
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To: Pinkbell

This wouldn’t stop Trump from just ceasing all immigration into the country if he wanted.


70 posted on 02/03/2017 5:24:13 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Pinkbell

I look at this as good news. We now know which judge to impeach and remove from office at the first sign of bad behavior. :)


71 posted on 02/03/2017 5:24:57 PM PST by SoFloFreeper (Isaiah 25:8)
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To: McCarthysGhost
No it doesn’t. Homeland will enforce the president’s lawful order.

You are correct. This is about news that will never happen, so it doesn't even qualify as fake news!

How many judges had failed to stop this legal action so far?

Now, I have a new tagline when I reply to a post about news that never happened, so it doesn't even qualify as fake news.

72 posted on 02/03/2017 5:27:03 PM PST by Grampa Dave (This is about news that never happened, so it doesn't qualify as fake news! Thanks Chaguito!)
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To: socalgop

There are no people left at airports in limbo. That lasted a whole 48 hours last weekend. Catch up.

No “explaining” by the Whitehouse will stop these injunctions.
Where have you been? The left has used the courts to legislate from the bench for years, because their ideas aren’t popular at the ballot box.


73 posted on 02/03/2017 5:27:04 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: tomkat
And how many divisions does that judge have ?

Yes, and another famous quote:

"John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!" - Andrew Jackson

Jackson is not politically correct anymore -- but did I see that President Trump has re-installed his portrait in the White House?

74 posted on 02/03/2017 5:28:07 PM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: kaila

Great idea!


75 posted on 02/03/2017 5:30:30 PM PST by dsm69 (Boycott News Media/Hollywood Advertisers)
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To: Voluntaryist

“The judge’s opinion isn’t even published yet...”

So that reality means this thread is about something that has not happened and isn’t even fake news.

The liberals have advanced from fake news to news that hasn’t happened yet, so it can’t be fake news.


76 posted on 02/03/2017 5:30:31 PM PST by Grampa Dave (This is about news that never happened, so it doesn't qualify as fake news! Thanks Chaguito!)
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To: Boomer

Probably because they don’t have a leg to stand on. It’s not an immigration ban. It’s a temporary pause in issuing new visas to make sure the procedures are adequate and standardized.

It names countries known to support terrorists, and where there isn’t much information available for the vetting process. It implements the required face to face interview that Obama had waived.

It names no religion. It states that preference should be given to people that are subject to persecution. That’s not just Christians, that is also minority sects of Islam.

It provides that applicants must support the constitution and harbor no bigotry against gays, women, ethnicity, and do not support honor killings.

Maybe this is probably an attempt to keep legal occupied to slow down the investigations of treason and other illegal activities.


77 posted on 02/03/2017 5:32:34 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: Pinkbell

No it only extends to our borders, it does not let them get here, And it is mostly negated since State revoked/canceled Visas already.


78 posted on 02/03/2017 5:32:49 PM PST by Mechanicos
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To: RckyRaCoCo

Impeachment should be what this judge gets, but unfortunately, the 2/3 threshold in the Senate makes that impossible. The only solution to facing 8 years of obstruction is to take away the jurisdiction from these courts for anything but slip and falls. Congress can add judges to the 9th circuit, and it can create a special court for constitutional challenges and it can do many things to sidestep these judicial activists, if only the RINOs had any guts. It just takes a majority. It’s the only way.


79 posted on 02/03/2017 5:33:21 PM PST by Defiant (The media is the colostomy bag where truth goes after democrats digest it.)
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To: dsm69

Exactly. Trump should ignore the ruling and state these actions are pursuant to Congressional authorization.

The Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF), Pub. L. 107-40, codified at 115 Stat. 224 and passed as S.J.Res. 23 by the United States Congress on September 14, 2001, authorizes the use of United States Armed Forces against those responsible for the attacks on September 11, 2001 and any “associated forces”. The authorization granted the President the authority to use all “necessary and appropriate force” against those whom he determined “planned, authorized, committed or aided” the September 11th attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups.

The AUMF was signed by President George W. Bush on September 18, 2001. As of December 2016, the Office of the President published a brief interpreting the AUMF as providing Congressional authorization for the use of force against ISIS and other Islamic militant groups.

All Trump is doing is conducting operations to interdict the inflow of ISIS and other Islamic militant groups into the US. The force he’s using with the immigration action is simply “non-lethal” force.


80 posted on 02/03/2017 5:35:19 PM PST by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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