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Aliens may have existed in our solar system long before us
nypost.com ^ | Jasper Hamill, The Sun

Posted on 04/29/2017 8:37:15 AM PDT by BenLurkin

“A prior indigenous technological species might have arisen on ancient Earth or another body, such as a pre-greenhouse Venus or a wet Mars,” he wrote.

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Earth’s plate tectonics would effectively have “erased” the traces of a civilization that lived billions of years ago.

Venus is in the grip of a severe greenhouse effect and also undergoes similar “resurfacing” that would scour it clean of artifacts.

This leaves just a handful of places where archaeologists might find traces of a lost extraterrestrial civilization.

“Remaining indigenous technosignatures might be expected to be extremely old, limiting the places they might still be found to beneath the surfaces of Mars and the moon, or in the outer solar system,” Wright added.

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The astronomer suggested that very old spaceships could still be lingering in the Asteroid Belt or Kuiper Belt, a disc at the very edge of the solar system that’s made up of icy objects.

These artifacts are likely to be the remains of ancient probes, space bases or industrial facilities.

“In the case of a prior indigenous technological species, the artifacts might have had totally different purposes, such as asteroid mining operations or settlements on other planets and moons,” Wright wrote.

“Such structures would be expected to fall into disrepair, especially if its creators are absent.”

So where are these aliens likely to have come from?

Wright suggested they may hail from somewhere that’s very close to home.

The presence of intelligent life on Earth makes it more likely that ye olde aliens hailed from this solar system, rather than being descended from an “extraterrestrial species that crossed interstellar space,” he concluded.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; astronomy; ceti; frederikpohl; fringe; heechee; jasontwright; jasperhamill; mars; ohsomysteriouso; pennstate; platetectonics; science; seti; tabbysstar; tedtalks; ufo; ufos; venus; whereisquix; xplanets
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To: mountn man

That’s an incredible effect considering it’s from the mid 1950’s.


21 posted on 04/29/2017 8:54:44 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: BenLurkin

22 posted on 04/29/2017 8:55:27 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: BenLurkin

I hope trump can keep them out too.


23 posted on 04/29/2017 8:56:03 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: BenLurkin

Or not.


24 posted on 04/29/2017 8:57:02 AM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: HarleyD

And it’s curious how certain “atheist” types, believe in global warming as if it were a religious faith.


25 posted on 04/29/2017 8:59:20 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: HarleyD
HarleyD wrote: Fascinating how people can believe in aliens yet deny the existence of God and spiritual beings. I know a man who took a road trip to Roswell, NM to meet his "friends". He is now in the lockdown unit at a State Institution... I wish I had time to tell the rest of the story!
26 posted on 04/29/2017 9:00:04 AM PDT by heterosupremacist (Domine Iesu Christe, Filius Dei, miserere me peccatorem!)
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To: mountn man

One of the top 10 Sci-fi movies ever.

I ‘ll never forget the monster’s roar - anyone know how they did that?


27 posted on 04/29/2017 9:00:28 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (Hillary Clinton: the official candidate of the National Sleep Foundation)
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To: darkwing104

Our planet was populated by the decendents of hair dressers and phone sanitizers ...


28 posted on 04/29/2017 9:01:27 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Enchante

We will never know that “They Live” among us until someone either invents the “sunglasses” or finds a box of the “sunglasses” in an abandoned church next to an itinerant labor camp in Vegas...


29 posted on 04/29/2017 9:01:43 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancake, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: BenLurkin

Ah Ha!

Ancient alien spaceships caused climate change and brought in the ice age — to their demise.

I used to be a skeptic, but I may be converting. $2 Trillion. If Al can get $1 Trillion ...

Direct Deposit will be fine.


30 posted on 04/29/2017 9:02:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BenLurkin

Well, if it’s our solar system, dey bees home boys.


31 posted on 04/29/2017 9:02:38 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: BenLurkin

Venus was NEVER a greenhouse planet. There is very little free water in its atmosphere, and the average atmospheric temperature is over 900 degrees Fahrenheit, at which point water dissociates, creating free hydrogen, while the oxygen is taken up by various sulfur compounds, and the hydrogen quickly recombines into other substances or escapes to space altogether.

There may be enough of both hydrogen and oxygen to combine into a decent supply of water, once the planet cools enough, but until the heat is radiated off by some means, Venus is forever a stillborn twin of earth. The “cloud cover” is largely sulfuric acid, and most of the atmosphere is carbon dioxide.

You want a REAL “climate change project”? Terraform Venus.


32 posted on 04/29/2017 9:02:48 AM PDT by alloysteel (Islam is not the highest and best end goal to be aspired to by mankind.)
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To: BenLurkin

OR perhaps we could just admit that “ in the beginning God.....”


33 posted on 04/29/2017 9:04:53 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: BenLurkin
A prior indigenous technological species might have arisen on ancient Earth

Without leaving a single trace? Nah - maybe on Venus or Mars (or who knows, maybe on one of the gas giants - we always have to append "as we know it" when we talk about extraterrestrial life).
34 posted on 04/29/2017 9:06:06 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: eCSMaster

http://soundworkscollection.com/news/creating-the-music-and-sound-effects-of-forbidden-planet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5ylc19O9m8


35 posted on 04/29/2017 9:06:08 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Nifster

Close enough!


36 posted on 04/29/2017 9:06:33 AM PDT by Bogie
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To: BenLurkin
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37 posted on 04/29/2017 9:07:03 AM PDT by mikrofon (Weekend BUMP)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

I'm not sure he's from this planet. He looks like an alien (but so does Barack Hussein).

38 posted on 04/29/2017 9:07:18 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: BenLurkin
Out in the holes where the Heechee hid

What a great book Gateway was - and while the follow-ups weren't it's equal, they were still great science fiction. I miss writers like Fred Pohl.
39 posted on 04/29/2017 9:07:19 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Enchante

If aliens were as stupid as she is, they never would have survived their own stone age.


40 posted on 04/29/2017 9:08:04 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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