Posted on 05/14/2017 8:30:57 AM PDT by hardspunned
I have been aware of the serious effect an EMP attack would have on our country for some time. I recently read a most terrifying book, One Second After, and am now motivated to better prepare my family for this possibility. My question regards the viability of a 1987 Toyota 4x4 truck with a 22r carbureted engine. I have been told there is a vulnerable component in the non electronic ignition system. My understanding was that old coil, distributor system was safe.
I have the opportunity to purchase this vehicle and would like to be sure that it can be counted on if needed.
“lots of info to research”
So I’ve found but can’t seem to find this specific question answered. I’m a little surprised that so many Freepers would want to flame this simple question. I like to think that I’ve prepared my family for many emergency scenarios but fear in this instance I wouldn’t be able to get them to safety.
“where are you going”
100 mile round trip to get family members in the first couple of hours, then hunkering down where we will have assets in a rural loction.
By using some of the logic here an EMP will stop your heart.
So, why worry? Were dead heh!
“EMP is vastly over rated for cars. Every lightning strike is a small localized EMP. I have never heard of a nearby lightning taking out a car”
The truth is....we don’t know.
a 600V/m field is possible under the hood, according to data I have seen. An emp is up to 50,000 v/m. The EMP commission testing is not as conclusive as is sometimes claimed.
Lighting EMP will definitely take out a car. It also is known to take out yachts.
Neutralized? Seriously? I don’t think you understand electronics. You can drain a battery. Circuits that e aren’t energized at the time of the emp will not be affected if they have a minimum of grounding and protection.
EMP’s will almost certainly affect only energized circuits. They can’t create current flow in an open circuit.
Have spare ignition components, alternator components and know how to replace them
I’ve got two tractors made before 1963 that use diesel and a four hundred gallon diesel storage tank. If it gets that bad I should be in good shape. Would a barn with a steel roof and siding work as a Faraday cage?
“...600V/m field is possible under the hood, according to data I have seen. An emp is up to 50,000 v/m. The EMP commission testing is not as conclusive as is sometimes claimed.”””
Do you know what high energy ignition coils produce?
They run on kerosene don't they so they would run out of fuel also.
Thanks for your post.
Going to respectfully disagree with you.
EMP would disable most all government vehicles and communication devices.
Used to be back in the 80’s the government/military were into shielding but that has not been the emphasis the last 20-yrs.
Nuke command and control, the White House, as well as very few other agencies will have some protections but their vehicles and comm systems generally will be worthless, and how will these government agencies notify all their people to come to work and how will they get there when a) their go-to-work-vehicles will be fried and b) most will want to stay home, or desert and go home to protect their own families.
And the “gangs” will be even more limited because they will be shut down by an EMP. Eventually, they may get their act together but not immediately, or months after the event.
Shoulders of highways will be less crowded and can be overcome to get outta Dodge.
Depart early, have a plan, route, and a location where you can find relatively sparse populations, i.e., good neighbors.
No. It depends on voltage which can depend on switch speed
What is known is that the EMP from Test 184, exploded about 180 miles over the populated area of Kazakhstan as a 1.45 megaton, knocked out a 600-mile underground power line (shielded) that was buried 3 feet underground. It caused fires to the power station that the line was connected to. It also damaged diesel generators. (Most of the details have not been released and/or have remained classified.)
As for the US, In 1962, the US government launched a 1.4 megaton nuclear warhead about 250 miles into the atmosphere over the Pacific Ocean. The pulse results were much stronger than expected. It damaged street lights and microwave links in Hawaii, 900 miles away. The EMP was so intense that it was not accurately measured because “it drove much of the instrumentation off scale”.
And to be sure these were experiments where the detonation was much smaller than the air burst that will be used in a nuclear attack. Hardening is great, but the intent of an EMP is not to destroy, but disrupt the initial efforts by the receiver to protect itself long enough to trap them into being a target where they are.
Besides, after the air burst, a whole bunch of ICBM’s will follow and we will retaliate to the point of making the earth uninhabitable for a few thousand years. I think you call that armageddon. That’s when the cock roaches are supposed to survive and take over. But I doubt it.
rwood
“You’re right, those touting EMP are Chicken Little’s without any common sense screaming the sky is falling”
Last we chatted I sent you multiple references documenting this. Did you not read a word of it?
Not sure what you’re trying to say. High energy ignitions regularly produce 20,000 volts and more.
Bicyles too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“The operative idea is home survival prep and shelter in place.”
Until you run out of food (remember, there will be no food deliveries to stores).
No kidding.
Do you know what high energy ignition coils produce?
Coils do not produce much energy but the convert 12 to 400 volts into 50,000 to 150,000 volts to make a little spark across the spark plug the 12 volt to 50,000 vote ones being in old cars.
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