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Dramatic video shows alleged road rage incident on California highway
ABC ^ | June 22, 2017 | Julia Jacobo

Posted on 06/22/2017 6:46:44 PM PDT by lowbridge

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To: Mr. Douglas

The motorcyclist had a reason to get mad...before the video started.

Plus you have to credit his skill; he went in a big underdog against a sedan. Maybe he has done this before.


21 posted on 06/22/2017 7:21:37 PM PDT by RossA
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To: lowbridge
Cadillac pickup truck

Cadillac makes pickup trucks?

22 posted on 06/22/2017 7:22:12 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob
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To: TigersEye; RegulatorCountry; Dogbert41

I have a sure fire way of figuring out who was in the right and who was wrong in a lawsuit. It’s never failed me.
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The one with the moral high ground was the one that was paying me.


23 posted on 06/22/2017 7:24:08 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Mr. Douglas
First blood was the scooter rider kicking the car. In the video, but we also have eye-witness testimony of the videographer, before he started filming:

Traber, who works for a local power company, was riding in the passenger seat when he noticed the motorcyclist pass them in the fast lane, he told ABC News. About 100 yards ahead, Traber said he saw the silver sedan, which was in the carpool lane, swerve to the right to enter the fast lane, almost hitting the motorcyclist.

There might not have been any injury or property damage at that point, though.

I can understand the motorcyclist (scooterist) being really angry and scared, but kicking a car in incredibly stupid.

The scooterist is lucky he's not dead.

I'm all for prosecuting the scotterist, but the driver looks like he tried to kill him. If the altercation was going on for a bit, and he's flipping off the scooterist then he can't claim surprise, and in fact his swerve to the right is attempted murder.

So, they both need to be charged, but vandalism is not the same as attempted murder. The driver needs the bigger punishment, plus he lost control based on his own murder attempt, and seriously injured someone as a result.


24 posted on 06/22/2017 7:26:09 PM PDT by Jack Black (Dispossession is an obliteration of memory, of place, and of identity)
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To: PAR35

LOL

That’s why I’d almost rather go to a hospital than to court.


25 posted on 06/22/2017 7:28:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Investigate the Awan brothers and Wasserman Schultz)
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To: Jack Black

Poor driving by the compact. Should have pinned that bike to the wall with ease. Note to self: relax. Also, tap the rear tire as the bike squeezes by, don’t aim for the front.


26 posted on 06/22/2017 7:30:14 PM PDT by anton
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To: Cowboy Bob
Cadillac makes pickup trucks?

Well,sort of...real name is Chevy Avalanche. Re badge it, add extra bells and whistles, $10,000 extra for the Cadillac badge and badabing badaboom we have a Cadillac Truck.

27 posted on 06/22/2017 7:33:05 PM PDT by exodan
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To: Jack Black

The biker may not have intended to cause physical harm to the driver but he was endangering people’s lives just the same. Not just his and the driver’s either.


28 posted on 06/22/2017 7:34:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Investigate the Awan brothers and Wasserman Schultz)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Cadillac makes pickup trucks?

Escalade.

29 posted on 06/22/2017 7:34:34 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: Steven Scharf

“There video is pretty clear. Nothing to allege. The motorcyclist and car hit each other with the car trying to take out the motorcycle. It backfired on the driver of the car.”

The motorcyclist was kicking the car on both sides. Sedan driver probably panicked.


30 posted on 06/22/2017 7:36:04 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: House Atreides

“Could that be a FReeper driving the silver sedan?”

Do you know the motorcyclist that caused the accident and then fled the scene?


31 posted on 06/22/2017 7:37:08 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Steven Scharf

Motorcycle rider started it, not the car.


32 posted on 06/22/2017 7:37:26 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: TigersEye

I’m sorry, I misread your reply. Justice is nothing more than a romantic notion. The law really is an ass. With competent representation, the driver of that car is in the clear, even though I suspect intent. Can’t be proved, unless of course he or she is a complete and total idiot and was live on FaceBook or something... a possibility.


33 posted on 06/22/2017 7:37:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Mr. Douglas

“The car was driving in a straight line in his lane and the bike came over into his lane”

According to the witness the biker kicked him on the passenger side. Then we see in the video the car over to the right with the biker on his left and kicking.


34 posted on 06/22/2017 7:39:05 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: RossA

At the very beginning of the posted video it appears the car is “merging” into the motorcycles lane.
I’d like to see about 10 seconds of previous video.


35 posted on 06/22/2017 7:42:19 PM PDT by Do_Tar (To my NSA handler: Only kidding.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Cadillac makes pickup trucks?”
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LOL! I was thinking the same thing when I read this account.


36 posted on 06/22/2017 7:43:30 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation ("You can't fix America without pissing off the people who broke it".....Bill Mitchell)
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To: PAR35

If you don’t believe your client is in the right and can still successfully represent them, that’s called a politician, not a mere attorney.


37 posted on 06/22/2017 7:52:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: TexasGator
Do you know the motorcyclist that caused the accident and then fled the scene?

Well if it isn't our resident biker hater. Sure to show up whenever a bike rider is involved in the conversation. Of course you see the biker at fault; you're a biker hater and other things I can't say here.

It's clear both the car, who started this by almost running the biker off the road by abruptly pulling into the bikers lane, and the biker was also at fault once tempers flared and he tried to kick the door of the car. At that point it was like the biker kicked sand onto the car drivers nice shoes.

That's when the car driver obviously attempted to kill the motorcyclist (biker) by swerving into him hoping to make the biker crash into the wall on the other side of the bike. Biker committed a misdemeanor. Car driver committed attempted murder. It would have been manslaughter had the biker died.

Now here is where the biker screwed up. He left the scene of an accident he was a part of. Bad juju. Maybe he was scared. Maybe he had a beer before getting on the bike and knew he would be found at fault regardless of what really happened. Either way he took off. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now and say he was scared. He didn't know if the car driver had a gun and would shoot him or what so he took off for his own safety. Still wrong but maybe for valid reasons. Maybe the biker saw a brandished gun before the car lost control and crashed into the divider.

Okay TG; back to your regularly scheduled biker hating rant. It's all you have so go for it.

38 posted on 06/22/2017 7:56:12 PM PDT by Boomer
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To: martin_fierro; lowbridge

Might need an FR Motorcycle Hoodlum Ping here....


39 posted on 06/22/2017 7:59:31 PM PDT by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.")
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To: Boomer

“Sure to show up whenever a bike rider is involved in the conversation.”

One of your cohorts pinged me here.

It would be really stupid if as you say the biker saw a brandished gun and kept kicking the car!


40 posted on 06/22/2017 7:59:55 PM PDT by TexasGator
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