JFK had intense back pain, and it may have helped kill him

Fox News ^ | By Jenn Gidman

[sparklite2]

Spinal neurosurgeon Dr. Thomas Pait assembled research on JFK's lumbar woes—which stretch back to his football-playing days at Harvard and led him to undergo four "largely unsuccessful surgeries"—into a paper recently published in the Journal of Neurosurgery.

In it, he ties JFK's death to a possible inability to duck down after Oswald's first bullet, all because he was wearing a stiff, "tightly laced" back brace with a figure-eight Ace bandage wrapped around it that kept him locked in an upright position.

"If you have that brace all the way up your chest, above your nipples, and real tight, are you going to be able to bend forward?" Pait notes.

[going hot]

Necks. Not much room there for a bullet to traverse without more than nominal damage.

[Jemian]

I had an entirely successful laminectomy in the summer of 1997.

[fhayek]

The first bullet missed. The second bullet went through his neck, then hit Governor Connolly. The third bullet was the devastating head shot.

[Arthur McGowan]

Oswald never shot anybody. At least, not JFK.

[iowamark]

http://thejns.org/doi/full/10.3171/2017.2.SPINE151524
“John F. Kennedy’s back: chronic pain, failed surgeries, and the story of its effects on his life and death”

[Arthur McGowan]

Oswald!!!

Kerosene!!!

The preposterous fairy tales are going down!

[2ndDivisionVet]

Back and to the left.

[Arthur McGowan]

Kennedy played football. Oswald shot Kennedy.

At least the quality of his research is consistent.

[plain talk]

https://www.prosportsexperience.com/blog/2013/02/19/which-u-s-presidents-played-football/

[Monterrosa-24]

You are correct Bookman. He did get his ticket punched for Harvard football but I think that is as far as his ambition went because he had back trouble in prep school football and previous to prep football.

[Monterrosa-24]

In those famous White House touch-football games that the press described as involving the Kennedy brothers, others in the clan, and visitors, JFK did not play unless it was for a photo-op. Jackie was injured in one game where JFK was only a “spectator”.

You are correct in that he did officially play football at Harvard.

[Vendome]

Funny...i was thinking the same thing...

[plain talk]

That link I provided also had a few interesting tidbits on a few other Presidents. Off topic ... but I found the Nixon play story kind of interesting. Gerald Ford was quite a player despite his image portrayed by Chevy Chase. Your comment triggered me to look up that info. Thanks.

[central_va]

Actually PT 109 wasn’t moving when it was sliced in two.

[zeestephen]

Re: “...but he still might have died from blood loss from the neck wound.”

As I recall, the autopsy stated that the neck bullet did only moderate damage to his throat and trachea, and it struck no major blood vessels, bone, or organs.

In my opinion, Kennedy had a good chance of surviving the neck wound.

Unfortunately, the neck bullet also caused a kinetic shock wave that struck Kennedy’s upper spinal cord.

It’s quite possible he would have been paralyzed from the shoulders down.

[tumblindice]

” ... his chronic, debilitating back pain, CNN reports. ... which stretch back to his football-playing days at Harvard”

The Kennedy Myth. For a long time his faithful retinue maintained that JFK’s back pain was attributable to the PT 109 sinking and his stalwart attempts to save his crew. Now it’s football.

John Kennedy had back pain and other serious physical problems well before college. As a young man, cortisone shots were the only thing that allowed him to move about. Before those he was pretty much strapped to a board. He endured back pain for the rest of his life but was functional. He also suffered with Addison’s disease and other ailments that required daily injections and medicines from his own Dr. Morell. John was a frail, sickly lad while his older brother Joe was heir to the Kennedy crime family throne.

But John was given the Navy Cross, after losing his motionless patrol boat to a Japanese ship that rammed it in half, instead of the court martial his commander demanded because obviously Lt. Kennedy was not running a tight boat.
So then big brother Joe volunteered for a (hare-brained) mission: flying a bomber that was so packed with explosives that it blew up on take-off, killing the entire crew.
`Jack’ reluctantly signed on to carry the torch, because father Joe could be very persuasive, although he was more interested in ladies, one a Nazi femme fatale, kibosh put by Pop.

But it’s CNN, so it must be true: JFK was a football hero too; junior varsity with a lot of bench splinters but details, schmetails.

[cynwoody]

Next: Oswald was a CIA agent working for Big Oil. Oh, wait. I think that one has been floating around like a turd in a toilet, for decades too.

My turds have gravitas.They sink to the bottom.

[sparklite2]

If his back was so messed up, I’m surprised he got into the military at all.

[politicianslie]

Did the first bullet pass through JFK's neck? And the second one went into his head?

There is a way to PROVE what happened during the shooting. Quit laughing, even a high school level student can understand this:

There are TWO INDEPENDENT ways to determine the times between the shots. Because it has been shown that the times between the shots are the same in BOTH, that means that both are VALID methods.

Method ONE: ZAPRUDER FILM

1. ALMOST everyone is in agreement that we can see a reaction to a shot immediately after Connally emerges from behind the Stemmons sign (Zapruder frame 224)

2. Everyone agrees that President Kennedy was hit in the head by a shot fired at Zapruder frame 313.

The FBI measured Zapruder's camera speed as approximately 18.3 frames per second by filming a clock and counting the frames. That means we can calculate the time between frames 313 and 224:

TIME (frame 224 to 313) = (313 - 224)/18.3 = 4.8 seconds.

METHOD 2 AUDIO RECORDING

An analysis of the only audio recording that might have captured the sounds of the shots showed the number of shots and the time between shots in this figure:

Because the time between shots #3 and #4 in the audio analysis is 4.8 seconds as is the time between frames 224 and 313 in the Zapruder film, that suggests the sounds of the shots really were recorded!

When you do a similar analysis of the other intervals between shots using BOTH the Zapruder film AND the audio analysis, you also get matching times! The interval of 4.8 seconds in BOTH the Z film and the audio analysis suggests that the sounds of the shots were recorded but multiple matches PROVES the sounds of the shots were recorded!

Once you understand that proof, you can then easily see that the audio recording by itself proves that a conspiracy killed President Kennedy.

Once you know that a conspiracy killed President Kennedy, you can then look at the US government's most thorough investigation of the JFK assassination and see that the US government possessed forged evidence. Because the US government controlled some of the evidence and no one else had the opportunity to forge it, that means that the cover up had to have been done by someone with a great deal of power (high in the US government).

Using this information to answer part of your question: Which bullet passed through JFK's neck?

At frame 224, we can see that JFK has raised both of his hands toward his neck which suggests that he has been shot in the neck BEFORE frame 224 (many have questioned WHY it appears that JFK reacts to the frame 224 bullet before Connally reacts.

In this crop of frame 224, we can see Connally is BEGINNING a reaction to a shot but President Kennedy already has his hands raised toward his neck. WHY DID JFK REACT BEFORE CONNALLY?

IF we look at this frame (about Z frame 198 with only JFK's body shown) we can easily see that JFK has his right hand raised up above his head and his left hand is down toward his lap. Slightly more than one second later, Kennedy has radically changed the position of his hands. Looking at the sound recording analysis, it can be seen that shot #2 was fired at (approximately) frame 202. In other words, Kennedy moved his hands so far in about a second in reaction to a shot that was fired at frame 202 which explains why JFK reacted to a shot before Gov. Connally.

(1.1 second X 18.3 frames per second = 20 frames, 224 - 20= frame 204 for the time shot #2 was fired)

This introduction shows that it is quite easy to determine what happened during the shooting once you know how to PROVE that the sounds of the shots were recorded. Using what witnesses said happened, using the Zapruder film and other films, and using the audio analysis allows a unique shooting scenario to be determined.

The word "unique" means you no longer have to wonder about which shot caused which wound in the JFK assassination. It could only have happened one way and using the time interval between shots allows that information to be identified!

If the average American only learned one thing in the last year it is should be that the press and the US government manipulate information to convince the public to be believe what "they" want. IT can be argued that the JFK assassination was the beginning of the mass deceptions and lies the deep state uses to control what the citizens believe. It's too early for you to explore that question, first you have to understand who was behind the assassination of JFK and why the US government continues to lie even today to hide the truth.

[Arlis]

Two major back surgeries, last in 1992 and I am fine at 72.

Ruptured disc in back after being with friend who had 3 unsuccessful surgeries in 1 year (blamed him for not telling me it was contagious), said they’d never cut my back. Pain was when I was prone, and you can only go so long w/o sleep.

My friend learned NEVER let an orthopedic surgeon cut your back when nerves are involved, advised me to find best neuro-surgeon for backs in central VA - I did, instant relief from pain, was back to running in 6 weeks.

2nd surgery was required 4 years later due to an unusual combination of factors: same nerve was pinched by scar tissue on one side (not uncommon) and calcified bone growth on the other.

Totally fine since ‘92 and kept running until I reached 69 when arthritis under my kneecaps killed my running.

One key to minimizing low back problems is keeping in good shape - especially abdominals. Sadly, I’ve now got a gut since I can’t run. I bike, but it’s just not the same, and weather limits you more.....