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Last Jedi Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score Is Lower Than Justice League
Movieweb ^ | December 15, 2017 | Ryan Scott

Posted on 12/16/2017 4:32:19 PM PST by EdnaMode

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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw
Star Wars was forever ruined in my mind after I saw The Phantom Menace. Utterly irredeemable after that.

Actually, it was during the Return of the Jedi when they introduced the Ewoks (teddy bears defeat the Empire) that it became irredeamable...At least that was the turning point.

101 posted on 12/18/2017 11:13:47 AM PST by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them)
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To: jdsteel

EXCELLENT NOT, it is.

It is not bad, but it is far from excellent.

The Rose character was so poorly written and acted that it was like watching something out of the prequels every time she was involved in a scene.

The entire casino city scene was forced, horribly bad... written poorly, executed poorly, acted poorly... and served only to be a little political push... It was aweful and I am amazed it wasn’t left on the cutting room floor.

The rest of the movie was good... not great, but good... Could have been better.

From the larger context, I think the problem (other than the flagrant ones listed above) is the move of the series away from Good and Evil to shades of grey.... That’s not Star Wars.


102 posted on 12/18/2017 11:21:15 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Magnum44

The problem with the prequels, IMHO is that Lucas got too full of himself... he needed to hire screen writers to write the dialogue.... Instead he wrote it himself and its terrible....

Combine that with the insanely stiff acting of the Anakin actor and absolutely ZERO on screen chemistry between him and Padme, and you wind up with the mess that was the sequels.

2 years ago I introduced my middle daughter to star wars... I tracked down the original theatrical releases of the first three and watched them with her, and then after she saw those she wanted to watch the prequels... and I watch them with her... Watching them with her, not as a fan, I was able to see WHAT Lucas was trying to , and for the most part what he was TRYING to do with the prequels wasn’t aweful... unfortunately though the execution failed to bring what he was trying to do to life.

Don’t get me wrong, they are all still aweful, but when you see what he was attempting to do, you can see that there was potential there... but it just didn’t get realized.


103 posted on 12/18/2017 11:26:53 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Scooter100
I don’t know....is it just me? Or is 7 years old a bit young for such visual mayhem?

My 7-year old granddaughter loved "Justice League" - but then her favorite character is Wonder Woman.

No surprise, she loved WW in her own movie as well.

104 posted on 12/18/2017 11:35:55 AM PST by COBOL2Java (John McCain treats GOP voters like he treated his first wife)
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To: EdnaMode

I don’t know what to say, but the numerous plot lines that went nowhere killed interest for me. As cheesy the original three were, my could I actually laugh at and be entertained by them. Then there’s the whole gray morality funny business that comic books have already beaten on a dead horse about. My how Star Wars is a total mess of a story. I couldn’t even feel for the new antagonist, our new instant Jedi Rey. Even a remake of the original trilogy that copied off the dialogue and choreography of the original movies would be preferrable to me.


105 posted on 12/18/2017 12:27:16 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Magnum44

Return of the Jedi was the end of a story arc until they decided to make more movies. I could put up with the rediculous parts solely because it was the apparent end of the story.


106 posted on 12/18/2017 5:20:15 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Williams

“The movie was pure leftist feminist propaganda.”

I haven’t seen it and probably won’t so I really don’t have a dog in the hunt so to speak. Star Wars never were my cup of tea. I was more into Indiana Jones. I am mainly interested in how it is attempts to move the culture.

On another site, someone posted that the only good white guy was Mark H. and a 9 year old boy during the last 10 seconds of the film. I gather they thought the one pilot was Hispanic. I haven’t seen a corresponding anti white male observation here which is good.

I do wonder what percentage of Star War Lego sets are purchased by or for white males.


107 posted on 12/18/2017 6:45:07 PM PST by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: HamiltonJay

Well, you know what opinions are like!

I disagree with yours on those scenes as well as the light/dark/gray dynamic. IMHO the story arc isn’t moving toward an end where the light OR dark “win” against the other. It is about who will join the two together....again.

I enjoyed myself the whole movie, and look forward to more.


108 posted on 12/18/2017 7:28:43 PM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom not more government)
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To: EdnaMode

I did not like this movie at all and I think the Disney reboot is a failure.

1. Seriously, the most powerful Sith named Snoke??? He sounds like a teddy bear.

2. Snoke dressed like Liberace in a gold sequin.

3. The diversion of the casino planet extended the story with no real addition except for time.

4. Star Wars was originally for 12 to 16 year old boys, now it seems like it is written for 8 year old girls.

5. Chased across the galaxy, the last battlestar is looking for a planet...


109 posted on 12/19/2017 10:17:31 AM PST by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: EdnaMode
Interesting take from First Things
110 posted on 12/22/2017 11:26:32 AM PST by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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