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Posted on 12/31/2017 10:38:56 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose

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To: NorseViking

I agree Norse, that things are better now socially. And the upcoming generation is very determined for social stablity (marriage and children) and not to replicate dysfunction of parents’ generation. Some young guys I met won’t drink even a drop of alcohol.

Abortion on the decline as well.

Now it’s the HIV crisis they need to tackle.

Yes Ministry of Culture did not finance Zvyagintsev’s film, but they know it’s the best quality choice of the options and they wouldn’t mind for Russian film as a whole to be be respected and recognized on the international stage.


21 posted on 01/01/2018 10:51:25 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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Somebody finances his movies which are pricy and not cash earners indeed.
I agree they are arty but don’t like overall.
That and Leviathan are nothing but a revival of late 1980s dark ‘chernukha’ genre.
I don’t want to go to a cinema and spend money to look into government corruption and family problems presented in a way to blame me as part of society for some evils. Also both movies has sinsible anti-Christian massage betraying it as a depressive leftist propaganda.

New York Times on the other hand seems to love Zvyagintsev work a lot.
I suspect for their propaganda ‘Leviathan’ and ‘Loveless’ are a kind of that ‘Grapes of Wrath’ were for Pravda in USSR.


22 posted on 01/01/2018 11:10:53 PM PST by NorseViking
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Agreed. I even liked government-approved “Stalingrad” by Bondarchuk better than “Leviathan” or “Loveless” (just saw it)...and Elena was also in the same vein. Haven’t seen “The Return”...

My favorite Russian film is “Andrei Rublev” by Tarkovsky.

Have you seen....VIKING? :)


23 posted on 01/01/2018 11:21:09 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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Nope, Stalingrad was a total garbage to me. Very similar to Hollywood’s take on ‘Pearl Harbor’.
A lot of cheesy over-dramatizing, a stupid love story, tons of pricy CG and a non-story.

Bondarchuk Jr as a director is a disgrace to his father.

9th Company was generally ok although not without flaws and he is not above multi-million sociopathic leftist propaganda.

I believe ‘Inhabited Island’ aka ‘Dark Planet’ was a shot at Putin government.
How he could raise 30 million US dollars it cost to produce this drivel, some in government grants is mistery to me.


24 posted on 01/01/2018 11:40:29 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: GoldenState_Rose
I think you also underestimate the resilience of the West, our capacity to live up to our values.

No, the West has a great capacity to live up to Western "Values".

Let's use your criteria to examine this, first up, Motion Pictures.

As you point out, Russia gets favorable notice in the Western decadent, highly corrupt, self congratulatory, morally and ethically lacking Golden Globs, a Politically Uber Correct exercise similar to the Academy Awarts, Because Zvyagintsev produces a fiction denigrating "average" Russian Society, (It will be a couple of years before Zvyagintsev will be required to make the boy a prepubescent transsexual to get a nomination, so it's good he got it now).

And The New York Times, the Bastion of American Truth in News and that which is Wholesome?

This is the criteria you cite right after accusing Russia of "external trappings of Orthodoxy and lip service to political incorrectness"?

"Loveless" is a FICTIONAL Motion Picture that complies with the FAKE NEWS PROPAGANDA narrative to denigrate Russia, Conservatives and people struggling to live a wholesome life that is pushed by the New York Slime and was "Reviewed" there for that purpose.

You're gonna have to do much better.

25 posted on 01/02/2018 6:09:19 AM PST by Navy Patriot (America returns to the Rule of Law)
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I read that in Russia under communism, the average number of abortions per woman was 8.


26 posted on 01/02/2018 10:56:05 AM PST by T-Bone Texan
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AFAIK it peaked in mid-1960s at 6 million. In 1989 there were four and a half million abortions. In 2015 roughly 450 000. Over the last decade the number decreases by 8-15% each year.


27 posted on 01/02/2018 11:17:36 AM PST by NorseViking
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Leviathan Analysis: The Paradox of Modern Russia
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LAY6i6_auUo

That’s one lib’s take on ‘Leviathan’.
The funny thing is you can set a movie based on completely the same script in say rural British Columbia, exclude an Orthodox Church and nobody will see any political message in it.
It would be a simple mediocre family drama.
And every thing gone wrong, real or fictional in Russia is always about ‘the regime’.


28 posted on 01/05/2018 3:07:58 AM PST by NorseViking
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