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1 posted on 02/17/2018 8:52:12 PM PST by hapnHal
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Gee...

Good thing we don’t live in Russia, ain’t it?

Never give up your guns.


2 posted on 02/17/2018 8:57:16 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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Teen in Russia Axes Students and Burns Classroom in Third School Attack This Week (January 19, 2018)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/01/19/teen-russia-axes-students-burns-classroom-third-school-attack/


3 posted on 02/17/2018 8:57:33 PM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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To: hapnHal

This is why the United States has a Bill of Rights.


4 posted on 02/17/2018 9:02:27 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (#NotARussianBot)
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To: hapnHal

This information is outdated. As I understand it, the law was amended a couple of years ago to allow anyone who had a permit to own a weapon to carry it for self defense.


5 posted on 02/17/2018 9:06:28 PM PST by billakay
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To: hapnHal

In the Soviet days you could own a pitch fork. Anything else was probably too much an inconvenience for the Chekas that wanted to kill you.


6 posted on 02/17/2018 9:08:31 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: hapnHal

That reminds me. I haven’t fondled my Mosin in a while.

Time to give the little feller an outing.
(but NO BOATS)


10 posted on 02/17/2018 9:40:25 PM PST by digger48
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To: hapnHal
Beware of propaganda that might appear in discussions and from state-owned propaganda outlets. Search around. Imagine, carrying a rifle with a 31-inch barrel on it. Yeah, baby!

Overview of gun laws by nation
Wikipedia
Russia
Russian citizens over 18 years of age can obtain a firearms licence after attending gun-safety classes and passing a federal test and background check. The licence is for five years and may be renewed. Firearms may be acquired for self-defense, hunting, or sports activities. Carrying permits may be issued for hunting firearms licensed for hunting purposes. Initially, purchase is limited to smooth-bore long-barred firearms and pneumatic weapons with a muzzle energy of up to 25 joules (18 ft⋅lbf). After five years of shotgun ownership, rifles may be purchased. Handguns are generally not allowed. Rifles and shotguns with barrels less than 800 mm (31 in) long are prohibited, as are firearms that shoot in bursts and have more than a 10-cartridge capacity. Suppressors are prohibited. An individual cannot possess more than ten guns (up to five shotguns and up to five rifles) unless they are part of a registered gun collection.[90]


11 posted on 02/17/2018 9:48:03 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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Just as I thought, the Democrats are trying as hard as insanely possible to turn America into Russia.


13 posted on 02/17/2018 9:52:06 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: hapnHal

Tell the liberals that, now that they hate Russia! Remember how they loved Russia when she was full commie?


15 posted on 02/17/2018 10:09:25 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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The following is from a comment posted to “Russian Forums: Master Russian.” I had to remove the Cyrillic text (username) to avoid a formatting problem.

Notice the definition for “self-defense weapons” (rubber bullets only).

Thread: Gun laws and regulations in Russia
http://masterrussian.net/f51/gun-laws-regulations-russia-14893/

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Gun laws and regulations in Russia

Members of public are allowed to own these categories of firearms:

1. Shotguns (and air-rifles from 3 to 25 joules of muzzle power)
2. Rifles (after 5 years long term of owning a shotgun and 5 years long membership in a hunting cooperative)
These two categories mean shoulder guns.

3. “Self-defense weapons” Those are gas pistols and so-called traumatic guns which fire a rubber bullet using a light charge of gunpowder.

No handguns, automatic fire and such.

Licences.
Buying a gun requires obtaining a licence from the police. Anyone starting from 18 years of age can obtain a shotgun or a self-defense weapons licence if he/she meets those criterias:

- not in file as a drug addict/alcoholic
- not in file as mentally ill
- no criminal record
- health certificate
- no certain misdemeanours comitted (such like misuse of firearms)
- that person passed an exam (on legal issues and firearm handling).
- good character report from the neighbourhood police inspector
- a steel gun safe. (very often they require it to be fixed to a wall)

The rifle license requires the same plus 5 years long owning of a hunting smoothbore licence

There are these types of licences:

1. Hunting smoothbore /air powered weapons - this requires joining a hunting cooperative before applying to the police. Hunting cooperatives require an applicant to pass an exam. One with such licence can keep a weapon at home, wear it in hunting/sports grounds and transport it elsewhere. A gun being transported must be unloaded, upholstered, ammo stored separately.

2. Self-defense smoothbore /air powered weapons. One with this licence can keep a weapon at home.

3. Rifle licence. Same as hunting smoothbore weapons’ licence carry/storing/transporting regulations plus annual forensic shoot-off.

4. Self-defense weapons. One can carry such a weapon everywhere except certain places.

All the licences must be renewed in 5 years. One can buy up to 5 pieces of weapons of each category. Cold weapons can be bought by hunting licence holders.

Ammo.
Ammo can be bought according to the caliber in your licence. That is a 0.308Win rifle owner cannot buy 30-06 cartridges. Gun dealers log ammo purchases.

Shotgun shells can be legally reloaded (powder is sold by the gun dealers). Rifle cartridges - a legal uncertainity with them, rifle powder cannot be found on sale. However, rifle owners disassemble factory cartridges to get the powder and load imported shells with it and imported bullets Those ones are bought mainly in the US web-shops.

There are private security firms.
They can rent (previously could own) handguns from the police. The handguns are limited in muzzle power - 300 J.
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20 posted on 02/17/2018 10:13:52 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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There’s a YouTube video here with the discussion. Notice in the comments that “Jared” is rebutted by Hyperprapor and other Russians. They said that the media release (or propaganda) claiming that firearms could be carried for self-defense was a “media misconception.”

And remember that “self-defense weapons” there are have a limited light gas or powder charge and may only fire rubber bullets.

The Truth About Russian Gun Control Laws
BY ROBERT FARAGO |JUL 12, 2016 |42 COMMENTS
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/07/robert-farago/truth-russian-gun-control-laws/


23 posted on 02/17/2018 10:28:40 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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From a survey in 2007, Russian civilians had a total of less than 13 million firearms with only half of the population of the U.S.A. There were 25,650 homicides in Russia in 2007.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/russia


24 posted on 02/17/2018 10:42:02 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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Would you believe that the following article was published at the NPR site? Wow! ;-)

The U.S. Has More Guns, But Russia Has More Murders
https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/09/19/224043848/the-u-s-has-more-guns-but-russia-has-more-murders


25 posted on 02/17/2018 10:43:04 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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In regards to the Internet hoax in 2014,...

You thought Gun Laws were strict here in the U.S.? Look what Russia is doing…
United Gun Group
January 29, 2018
https://www.unitedgungroup.com/news/2018/01/29/thought-gun-laws-strict-u-s-look-russia/
“In 2014, the Russian parliament passed an amendment allowing citizens to carry licensed weapons for the purposes of ‘self-defense,’ but the Interior Ministry quickly added that this covered only non-lethal guns, not hunting or combat versions. In October 2017, the head of the Russian National Guard – the federal agency in charge of gun control – said that in his opinion the community was not ready for mass ownership of firearms. The official then promised to tighten controls over possession and turnover of guns, including those that fire irritants and non-lethal rubber bullets according to RT.com.”


29 posted on 02/17/2018 11:10:16 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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On the other hand, ex-KGB and ex-Spetsnaz troops enforce the mob with just about everything in the Soviet arsenal.


35 posted on 02/18/2018 5:36:23 AM PST by GingisK
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Each of the more notorious of the recent mass murderers were affluent or in affluent families and suburbs. There were indications that each of them were rather spoiled and lacking in parental strictness. Each was known to be extremely apathetic towards others and on psychoactive drugs known to make some patients impulsive and violent at times. Each of them were lacking in fatherly influence.

Several of the other mass murderers had the minds of foreign enemies. At least two of those people of foreign terrorist persuasion were employed by government offices, and at least one of the two was a county government official in California.


39 posted on 02/18/2018 9:32:21 AM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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In Russia, law enforcement is a federal matter. In the 2012 reform, police were made a federal body,funded out of the federal budget.

Gun laws in Russia are looser than in Europe but stricter than in the US. You need a license from the police to own guns and rifles.

And there’s also the black market. Russian authorities recognize gun control in the form of an absolute ban, is impossible.

And if people want to commit murder, no law will stop them.


40 posted on 02/18/2018 11:45:34 AM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever))
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