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Is Keto the Cure for Type II Diabetes?
Reason ^ | Feb. 28, 2018 | Mike Riggs

Posted on 02/28/2018 12:22:07 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: BobL; Bloody Sam Roberts

I also got that book after someone recommended it on a previous thread here, and I found out that Dr. Fung also has another book coming out in April (which I've pre-ordered on Amazon).   Not sure if you folks heard about this one yet, but you might want to check it out.



"The Diabetes Code: Prevent and Reverse Type 2 Diabetes Naturally" by Dr. Jason Fung

(Amazon book link)


81 posted on 02/28/2018 4:19:33 PM PST by Songcraft ("Pray without ceasing." 1 Thessalonians 5:17)
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To: itsahoot

I’ll give you an insight into the inner workings of my project:

It’s not “low-carb.”

That’s not the correct manner to address what essentially is a conditioned addiction due to propaganda, marketing, false medical information and toxic foods.

But it IS “correct carbs” & “correct foods” to round out nutrition.

For example, if you’re raising your own eggs and buying regular-cured bacon from the store, you’re bailing a leaky boat.

45 years ago??? Holy cow! Kudos for obviously doing something right. I hope the rest of your health is good (adult symptoms & conditions being what they are for most people).


82 posted on 02/28/2018 4:29:24 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: HotHunt; All
"The government food pyramid
is upside down and wrong...."


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83 posted on 02/28/2018 4:49:31 PM PST by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: logi_cal869
I hope the rest of your health is good (adult symptoms & conditions being what they are for most people).

I am not infirm but 79 is a long way from teen years. Hearing is about gone and a schwannoma in the right ear makes walking a cr@p shoot but I have no real pains so yeah I am doing pretty good. Have a wife that loves me and a decent retirement so what can I complain about other than politics.

I have plenty of time to watch YouTube videos on everything. See things I didn't know existed. Learn things I never knew, so life is good.

84 posted on 02/28/2018 5:29:01 PM PST by itsahoot (There will be division, as long as there is money to be divided.)
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To: z3n

Please see Dr. Jason Fung’s work at Intensive Dietary Management. You will enjoy his YouTube videos. There is an excellent book entitled, “The Obesity Code” which will explain it all clearly


85 posted on 02/28/2018 5:37:59 PM PST by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Altering gene expression in gut flora, response of receptors in the gut, activity of cellular mitochondria within the body is also possible with Berberine added to the diet.

Barberry Berberine Diabetes & Fat Mice:

https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2018/02/20/barberry-berberine-diabetes-fat-mice/


86 posted on 02/28/2018 6:05:07 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: eyeamok

Fortunately, my doctor believes in very low carb diets and lots of fermented foods. He really walks the talk, too.

Unfortunately, he failed to diagnose my H. Pylori infection over two decades or more. Horrible GI problems, many trips a day to the bathroom, constant diarrhea, even chest/back/shoulder pains (others have said the same thing for H. Pylori). I just finished the two-week treatment of two antibiotics and a PPI.

In addition to that antibiotic treatment, at the start of 2018 I went completely dairy free, gluten free, zero coffee, zero alcohol and a daily probiotic supplement. These have done wonders. Going gluten free got probably 75% of the carbs out of my diet. Almost 18 pounds have come off. Killing the H. Pylor, going “partial keto,” and adding the probiotics have gotten rid of all my GI problems and all the chest/back/shoulder pains have disappeared. Side benefits are my mood and outlook are much better and my head feels clearer.

I should have done more research decades ago, been much more insistent that I be tested for H. Pylori, and learned a lot more about nutrition when I was younger.


87 posted on 02/28/2018 8:48:30 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: jacquej
Keto Calculator. Enter your gender, height, weight, age, body fat, activity level, your health goal, your target calorie deficit to achieve your goal, desired carbs and protein consumption. Output:


88 posted on 02/28/2018 9:05:15 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: wildbill
I did a lot of reading tonight on whether it's worthwhile measuring your ketones. There are three types of tests that use blood, urine, or breath. There is a lot of variability on what specialists think should be the right level of ketones and it varies widely from person to person and throughout the day. Most of the articles I read said that it is not worthwhile to measure ketones - just follow a sensible diet. The blood test strips are expensive, too - about $1.50 to $2.00 per test. A couple years ago they were $5 to $10 per test!

Amazon: Ketone Test Meter

See What Are The Optimal Ketone Levels For A Ketogenic Diet?

89 posted on 02/28/2018 9:11:13 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: itsahoot

Art Buchwald! Haven’t thought of him in YEARS. He was my Dad’s favorite — the Dave Barry of his day. Funny you should remember him. Wonder how many here know who he was.


90 posted on 02/28/2018 9:12:35 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: RedStateNotShirt

I’ve got the extra inducement that milk proteins make me really sick and really foul up my GI tract. I’ve been trying Gluten Free to see if that was the problem and that got a lot of carbs out of my diet. Then, a couple weeks later, I went Dairy Free and that made an even bigger improvement. Two months now and I’m still on the plan. Down 18 pounds from my peak of 199.


91 posted on 02/28/2018 9:15:02 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Ambrosia
Some had coffee with Almond Milk, but I just didn’t drink it, as I use Cream, and it is not same

I'm trying a "coffee substitute" now since I took all acid foods and drinks out of my diet -- no more coffee. I'm using a chickory tea with either almond milk or flax milk.

You think that regular coffee with almond milk doesn't taste the same? You should try what I'm drinking - blech!!

92 posted on 02/28/2018 9:17:20 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: z3n

I am not diabetic, but I was developing insulin resistance, and my endocrinologist put me on the diabetic diet, which is similar to KETO.

I can eat all the greens veggies I want. I am supposed to limit carbs to 60g. per day or less. That’s like a piece of toast or a glass of milk with each meal and 1 snack.

If you keep your insulin response low, your insulin receptors can sort of heal themselves and eventually become less resistant. Several doctors discovered this by experimenting with their own diet and getting off the diabetic treadmill.

Insulin shots/meds make you gain weight. They also make your diabetes worse, because the resistance continues to build. The sooner the diet is corrected the better the results.

Adult diabetics will never recover enough to be able to eat carbs like young people do, but then most people aren’t able to do that either.


93 posted on 02/28/2018 9:27:27 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: HotHunt

Right you are. The government pyramid is wrong-and it also is contrary to what we were taught about nutrition in home economics. It is especially wrong with respect to fats. Healthy fats are needed to produce good HDL.

Healthy fats containing vitamin K2 are needed to properly deposit Calcium in the bones and not the arteries. That is found in butter, milk, and meat from grass fed (not grain fed) animals. Also in free range chicken egg yolks.

Originally birthed out of the McGovern hearings. At the time, the people opposed, said there was no real proof.

The people for said it said it was too important to wait for studies. Result citizens became guinea pigs and were fed a bunch of BS regarding what was healthy.

I like to refer to it as the time when the grain lobby out did the meat lobby.


94 posted on 02/28/2018 9:37:34 PM PST by greeneyes
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Book mark


95 posted on 02/28/2018 9:45:23 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I love Bull Markets!)
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To: Pray All Day

Nice, thanks! I’m going for that book too. I think what happened to Dr. Fung was that he wrote a book for weight loss and it wound up being a smash hit for people who have diabetes. So now he’s dedicating a book to that cause.

EXCELLENT!


96 posted on 03/01/2018 1:30:53 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: antidisestablishment

I can’t speak for short-term fasting, other than to say that people will not get into Ketosis with it, as several consecutive days of 100% fasting (water only) is needed.

But then again, if it works for some people, so much the better.


97 posted on 03/01/2018 1:32:56 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: missthethunder

“... but life keeps getting in the way. haha”

Get away from people! I send my wife 1000 miles away when it’s time to fast...makes all the difference.


98 posted on 03/01/2018 1:33:50 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: jonrick46

“How many times a month/year do you fast?”

I don’t track it, but I’d say I average 6 days consecutive about 10 to 15 times per year.


99 posted on 03/01/2018 1:35:14 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

LOL...how funny!


100 posted on 03/01/2018 4:39:47 AM PST by Ambrosia
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