Posted on 02/28/2018 12:22:07 PM PST by nickcarraway
There’s a competing theory from low fat diet advocates that suggests removing the fat from one’s diet reduces the intramyocellular lipid (fat inside the cell) and “unclogs” the cells so that they can again be receptive to insulin. This was discussed in “Forks Over Knives.” Either way, it’s tough to stick to either low fat or low carb diets over the long run.
The best way to lose weight is to use the Book of Daniel fast, where all you eat must come out of the dirt! Except to lose weight avoid potatoes and corn...starches.
I lost 10 lbs in January, when I did the fast with Franklin Jentzen’s church, after New Years! You cannot have Sugar, Bread, Dairy or Meat at all...that is the fast. Prayer, Bible reading, and getting closer to God Spiritually was the goal.
I did not do it to lose weight but was surprised how a 21 day ‘food from dirt’ could change how you feel, plus the weight loss.
I drank water with lemon, which I do in restaurants anyway. I made smoothies with berries/bananas and Vanilla Almond Milk, unsweetened. Some had coffee with Almond Milk, but I just didn’t drink it, as I use Cream, and it is not same.
Nuts come from trees/dirt, so I would do chop apples, saute with cinnamon/pecans/walnuts, etc. Oranges, Grapefruit, melons, or other fruit ok. I ate salads, using Oil and Apple Cider Vinegar...added Chai, really was not hard at all. What was best was how much energy I had.
Multiple benefits, if you are needing a new start, diabetics must check blood sugar often, and some have to be careful, as this lowers blood sugar, and check with your doctor on doing that program.
Eat carbs and sugars and you'll gain weight.
Don't eat carbs and you will be leaner and healthier.
s”no matter how many KETO recipes I see on YouTube they all taste like cr@p.”
you have to make your own.
i just made a bacon, cheese cauliflower casserole that’s divine.
also just slow-roasted two port butts and shredded when done, salted to taste and then doused with homemade BBQ and froze quart portions.
when i want to eat, make homemade cole slaw and mix 50/50 with the shredded Q.
eggs can be made a million ways.
cream instead of half-half for coffee.
canned sardines, smoked oysters and salmon. avocado mayo. avocado oil. roasted chicken.
BLT salads are great.
there’s really tons of great things to eat on this diet.
even homemade pizza with cauliflower-based crust.
“Are you eating low protein too?”
No. Just very low carbs. Fat, protein, and vegetables is it. No fruit. No alcohol (even one G&T/night halted the weight loss). Don’t need to watch calories either as after being on the diet for a few weeks you tend to lose your appetite. I don’t get hungry until 3-4pm, and then can’t eat much because fat and protein are so satiating.
Cardio workout 3 times a week for 30 minutes was a HUGE boost for weight loss. Gonna buy a used Q37xi Octane Elliptical for home use because going to gym is rather time-consuming.
The REAL trick is to keep the weight off after losing it, meaning you can’t go back to bad eating habits, and pretty much just add back enough high quality carbs to keep your weight stable.
Here’s the dealeo outlined in my book which, by the way, reads like a Conservative manifesto pertaining to health (not my intention...the facts dictated my writing, nothing else):
Carbs are nutritionally-neutral and decades of “fat is bad for you” mantra coming from the government prompted people to substitute; free market responded in droves.
Hence: SAD (standard American diet). Your comment is truly apropos.
Eating healthfully is not expensive when you consider that food budget is essentially health (prevention). Too many people - my wife included - spend great amounts of $$ on vegetables making more expensive you-know-what. I keep telling her if she added some fats she could eat half the veggies, but she’s into that calorie-counting BS.
Marketing has people focused on the wrong things. I’m still trying to craft my message to break through institutional intransigence & abject stupidity; I dare state I have little confidence in my success...
I’m going to borrow your Art Buchwald line; never heard that one (PERFECT!).
How many times a month/year do you fast?
“Not if you find a way to actually enjoy a low carb diet. Spend your money on good meat and seafood (and cheese!) and eat like a king. Pot roast every Sunday. Porterhouse steaks at least once a week. Shrimp and sausage stir fry last night. Spare ribs tonight. Yum. And really not all that more expensive than eating meals that come out of a box or a fast food window when you add everything up.”
Throw in salmon and tuna grilled at least once a week to your weekly diet, and you basically have my Paleo modified to a Mediterranean eating program not a diet.
I had severe foot problems and injuries and bulked up from 175 to 235 due to lack of exercises and a complicated foot surgery, and the damn carb loaded food pyramid. I was becoming a Type II diabetic during this process.
On a friend’s suggestion, I went on a Paleo diet suggested by also by my new family doctor. The Dr. said to never eat anything that came out of a package or box with polysyllable ingredients, loaded with carbs/sugars and anything that said diet on the package. Eat and snack on fresh veggies, almonds/walnuts and fresh fruit. Find ways to eat Kale in salads, soups or as a wrap for a gyro sandwich. We threw away oleo and use real butter and real eggs and real bacon.
My wife use a lot of Costco’s Extra Virgin olive oil to cook with or in her home made salad dressings.
I lost 45 pounds in about 2 months on a basic Paleo diet. My wife is a terrific cook, and we then started with a modified Paleo and Med diet. Smoked salmon, mixed nuts, cherry tomatoes and fresh fruit for breakfast. We grab some mixed nuts/fruit/veggies for snacks throughout the day. For lunch I make a gyro sandwich with kale instead of bread, sliced turkey or smoked cheese, or beef or ham instead of the turkey. In the winter, I have left over soups or stews that my wife made.
Dinners run from King Salmon to steak, to pork loin roasts, grilled chicken and grilled tuna with good veggie side dishes. In the spring/summer/fall I grill the above, a weekly hamburger, lamb rib chops and whatever veggies are fresh.
My trend to type 2 diabetes is history.
3+ years later my weight is still at 165-17ish. I can look at a french fry tv ad and gain weight. Giving up the great French breads baked locally was tough. Now, I can buy the bread, bring it home, slice it and serve it to guests or my wife or family members and not want any.
Giving up my nightly one or two local micro brews was tough. A neighbor is a brew master in a local brewery/restaurant, and I could have a cold one any time of the day. I was able to say no to that.
We never diet and just use the above program.
My wife is at the same weight she was 4+ years ago, and as noted above, I’m holding the same as 3.5 years ago. We are both pushing 80 years of age. We are relatively new Kaiser patients. Our family practice doc sent my wife a copy of her lab results with these comments, “That 20/30 year old female jocks patienrs didn’t have lab results like she had in spite of their strict diets and hard workouts 5-6 times a week.”
You have inspired me. I was just diagnosed with pre-diabetes. I hope someday to be able to say the same thing you did.
They put me on metformin, but it didn't lower my numbers enough. Before they could increase my meds, I started keto.
Glucose is at 105 (normally) and A1C is 6.0
Stay away from those two things and you will do fine.
I agree with the fasting approach.
That’s what I would do as soon as a doc told me
I was diabetic or pre-diabetic.
It is also suppose to reset your immune system.
Did 3 days last year and lost 10 lbs or more
and have not put it back on.
I wish I would do 3 days a month but life keeps getting in the way. haha
I will have to try harder.
I’ve been on the Solar Collection Eating Plan for 10 years - very successfully.
It is simple.
• I eat plants and things they produce
• I eat things that eat plants and what they produce
• I eat things that eat things that eat plants.
There is one other rule, which is: eat as much as you want, slowly, until you are full. Then stop eating.
You get the entire benefit of all the solar energy collected by plants, and by eating things that “roll up” the plants that are collecting the fresh rays of the sun, and then super collectors roll up all the energy collected.
“Exactly the message that is contained in the book, “The Obesity Code” by Dr. Jason Fung. Fasting is the key.”
That’s the book I read and it was good.
Made sense.
I make my own, raise my own eggs and have been doing this for the most part nearly 20 years. Taste is not permanent, foods change even textures change but we all lose some taste sooner or later and I cooked when I was in the Navy and was d@mnaed good at it, now I can't fix anything that meets my previous standards because my lack of true taste messes everything up. Steak tastes more like liver used to taste, than steak and that makes it hard.
I had a heart attack 45 years ago have a bunch of stent that are still holding after 10 years but weight has always been a problem no matter what I eat.
Low carb gets me within 30 pounds of normal and no better. When I look back my body shape is more or less what my grandfather was and he lived in starvation times as we all did. I weighed 107 pounds when I went in the Army in 1957 weighed 120 when I got out. Went in the Navy came out at 160. held that weight for years about 10 years ago went to 200 now about 170 and I am short.
I wouldn’t try to argue that a ketogenic diet should be prescribed for everyone, but it worked for me. I did hard Atkins at first, then gradually added healthier carbs (sweet potatoes, quinoa, sprouted grains, etc.) back in over time. I still eat fewer carbs than the RDA, but am in no way carb-deprived. I lost about 98 lbs. over the course of 3 years. I also did short, intense cardio workouts and resistance training.
I went from “pre-diabetic and pre-hypertensive” to completely normal. It works, but you need to monitor muscle loss, too, and take steps. I really don’t want to sound arrogant about this, but most MD’s never take a course in nutrition. The food pyramid and RDA’s are a complete fraud. (Oh, by the way...I’m 63.)
Intermittent fasting works just as well, and it’s maintainable. Eat during an 8-hour windows and only drink water tea or coffee during the rest of the day. It will reset your metabolism in a short period. Look at www1percentedge for an easy science-based diet. Add in a simple 5x5 weight lifting program, and you’ll see incredible results even if you do no cardio.
Stop eating chips and stop drinking soda.
Your health will improve.
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