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Why More Men Than Ever View Marriage as a Bad Deal
PJ Media ^ | 03/09/2018 | John Hawkins

Posted on 03/10/2018 7:18:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: robroys woman
"Getting married today is far too risky - at least in the US. I’d not do it. I might marry someone from another country, but not an american woman. No way."

You moved out to the hills for a reason and I'm sure most people around here accepted you for the good man that you are (I read your posts) but we don't need attitudes like that influencing our young. We have enough problems with drugs and govt handouts keeping new families from forming.

It's just a guess, but you're still hearing the phrase, "You're not from around here, are ya?" quite a bit, aren't you?
381 posted on 03/13/2018 11:51:24 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: papertyger

Many women want to decide the direction of the ship while holding men responsible for anything going wrong with the ship.


382 posted on 03/14/2018 1:00:07 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Georgia Girl 2
You're complaining about men while simultaneously claiming that men's complaints are invalid by default and that thus they are simply whiny crybabies.

Why are your complaints about men allegedly valid and the complaints of men allegedly not valid?

What is the difference?

383 posted on 03/14/2018 1:08:38 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Ambrosia

You seem to reject the prospect of the father raising them after the marriage ends.


384 posted on 03/14/2018 1:12:43 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Bellflower

The men you reference need to insist on premarital contracts.


385 posted on 03/14/2018 1:13:42 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: Georgia Girl 2

If writing child support checks and only spending a couples of weekends a month parenting was the preferable path, women would pursue it for themselves.


386 posted on 03/14/2018 1:21:37 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: kara37
Yes, your posts have been very lady like. (/s)

I pity your husband, henpecked and all.

BTW, those who make "plenty of money" don't brag about it.

387 posted on 03/14/2018 2:55:02 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: kara37
Hit a nerve, did I?

OMG!!!!

No, really. You have GOT to stop!

I don’t know which is more hysterical, your obvious lack of intellectual depth (if HIS irritation was caused by “hitting a nerve,” what caused YOUR irritation?), or the asinine, glass-jawed, aphorisms you people spout like a broken gumball machine to protect your self-image (like a child hiding behind their own hands).

THIS is why I say the only difference between liberal and conservative women is their politics. When aggravated, you both revert to tactics you learned in grade school to punish OTHER girls.

What makes this so sad and pathetic is that once you’ve “grown up,” the only men it still works on are the ones with which you have emotional attachments. Which further means it’s only effective with men you’re in a position to stab in the back.

388 posted on 03/14/2018 3:25:41 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: kara37
When you resort to calling a woman b***ch, you just lost the argument.

There's the asinine aphorism thing, again!

While your creative thinking is nothing to write home about, I suppose you should get points for consistency.

Exactly how does that work...losing an "argument" by using a certain word?

I understand that when you can make another woman upset, you've pierced her defenses, but with a man it's different. We don't slink off to lick our wounded self-image. When you make a man mad it's not the end of hostilities, it's the beginning!

The notion that you "won" and argument by pissing him off is utterly incomprehensible to a man, and box-o-rocks stupid for a woman.

The "B" word is an expression of contempt and disdain for a man. It means you have exhibited those traits common to women of poor character and shallow reasoning. It means you will no longer be taken seriously.

389 posted on 03/14/2018 4:16:33 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: Garth Tater

It’s just a guess, but you’re still hearing the phrase, “You’re not from around here, are ya?” quite a bit, aren’t you?


Nope. I found a church my small town (it’s a university town) where I have more in common with the members. I learned the hard way that one needs to be around their peers to really be able to be them self.

My attitude comes from experience and observation. Some ask me why I’m not angry with my ex but I am angry with the government. The reason is simple and twofold:
1. We all do bad things to others from time to time. We are all “disobedient children on the play ground”. And a woman that just wants to not be married any more is kinda like a pre-teen that thinks they want a sex change. That is, it’s dangerous and stupid, but when the government empowers their decision, the government becomes the problem. Which leads to number 2;
2. She clearly regrets it and it has just made her a bitter man hater. If she had stayed in the marriage her life would be better now by at least a couple orders of magnitude. I completely forgave her a long time ago, but she has become a dangerous person to me and our daughters.

As long as the government is empowering women to self destruct - and destroy their families - by putting the full power of the government and the government’s gun behind it, it is foolish for a man to marry a woman in the US. The odds of even the “right girl” having feelings of dissatisfaction in a marriage are ridiculously high. And when the kids reach their teenage years (that’s where ours were when she did this), the stress can be strong, and the temptation to just “get out” can be as well.

No-fault divorce makes getting married, for a man, one of the highest risk endeavors on the planet. Even a Christian man. Would you buy a $50,000 car with a one year warranty if the odds of it totally breaking down in 18 months was 40%? This is something along those lines. And, sadly, you don’t have a clue in the beginning if you got a bad one or not.

I will say this: My current wife and I were both 43 when we met. We knew what we were getting and it proved spot on. At 20, fuggetaboutit. It’s a complete crap shoot.


390 posted on 03/14/2018 4:21:44 AM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I’m reading their sob stories and the two words that come to mind are “poor choices”. So they want to blame women because they picked a bad one. How about you messed up just own it.

I'm sure that's exactly how you handle it when someone stabs you in the back.

Yeah, right.

You can't even carry on an online discussion without reaching into your bag of spite.

391 posted on 03/14/2018 4:28:17 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: Ambrosia
...that hits the root cause of their frustration. We all ‘own’ our decisions, bad or good!

I love how all you bobble-head dolls can diagnose men's problems by dismissing EVERYTHING those men have to say, and insulting them for saying it!

Why, one might get the idea the ONLY men you'll listen to are those with their noses firmly planted in your bums.

And women "OWNING" all their decisions? Even you can't be that self deluded. Women evading responsibility for their actions is trait reaching all the way back to antiquity!

392 posted on 03/14/2018 4:44:59 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: robroys woman

Dude.

That was sublime.


393 posted on 03/14/2018 4:53:05 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: Architect of Avalon

NO, I do not reject the father raising their children, because sometimes he is the one most qualified. Circumstances should dictate who has custody, and I would prefer both have custody, if possible. Ideally, the parents would parent together as one, and stay married.

I think if you read ALL MY COMMENTS, you will find that I don’t agree with liberal women, or men telling their sons to never marry, it isn’t worth it! God says sex without marriage is sin, so who wants to send you children in ungodly lifestyle, that may affect their eternity?

One poster upset me and I unloaded on him, and joked with a few women, who also were attacked viciously. We are human, however, we need to keep the goal in mind..”well raised children, who aren’t permanently damaged by angry parents.”

In order to be brief, I tried to keep answers to the subject matter....NOT that the women bashers cared what I really thought!


394 posted on 03/14/2018 6:40:01 AM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: papertyger
“About 70 percent of the debt is owed by men who earn $10,000 a year or less, or have no recorded wage earnings at all,

Do you know that some men quit working after a divorce? I know of two men who did just that. Both had earned very high incomes. One was a surgeon at a well known medical center. He abruptly retired. The other went back to school to become a minister.

395 posted on 03/14/2018 6:52:18 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Ambrosia
NOT that the women bashers cared what I really thought!

What you really thought was obvious from your presentation.

What you have to say now is just “saving face.”

And if you thought you were “viciously attacked,” you really ARE a snowflake. Or dare I say: crybaby.

396 posted on 03/14/2018 7:50:20 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: ladyjane
Do you know that some men quit working after a divorce?

So what’s your point?

397 posted on 03/14/2018 7:51:48 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: robroys woman
"As long as the government is empowering women to self destruct - and destroy their families - by putting the full power of the government and the government’s gun behind it, it is foolish for a man to marry a woman in the US."

So you've given up the fight? Life's never been easy around here but none of our ancestors ever just gave up. So please, feel free to advise our young of the dangers you see in the world, but DON'T advise them to give up - that's just not the way people around here do things.
398 posted on 03/14/2018 1:24:23 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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To: Garth Tater

So you’ve given up the fight? Life’s never been easy around here but none of our ancestors ever just gave up. So please, feel free to advise our young of the dangers you see in the world, but DON’T advise them to give up - that’s just not the way people around here do things.


I represented myself in court for custody of my daughter and won.

However, I very much adhere to the serenity prayer and apply it accordingly in this case. The bible tells us what to do when an unbelieving spouse leaves.

The fight for a male is to hide all of their assets from day one, just in case. But you can see the problem that creates. The challenge is not crazy women. The challenge is a system that empowers them. My ultimate solution is to grow old and not have anything worth taking. Spend your money as it comes in.


399 posted on 03/14/2018 3:57:06 PM PDT by robroys woman (So you're not confused, I'm male.)
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To: robroys woman
"The fight for a male is to hide all of their assets from day one,"

You really aren't from around here, are you?


"My ultimate solution is to grow old and not have anything worth taking."

Between that attitude and advising their offspring to not reproduce I'm sure your adopted community will really appreciate the contributions you made to their future.
400 posted on 03/14/2018 4:35:15 PM PDT by Garth Tater (What's mine is mine.)
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