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Just a warning - unscrupulous car dealerships are still alive and well.

Posted on 08/22/2018 4:58:52 PM PDT by eastexsteve

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To: eastexsteve
Ah yes, the time we researched a used car and came up with the correct blue book value. We added $500 to it for their profit. So when it came time to do the writing numbers on the paper game he wrote something like 15k. I wrote 10.5k. He did the "need to talk to manager" and came back 15 minutes later with 12.5 written on the paper. I wrote 10k on the paper and passed it back.

He went white. "You went down?!?"

And we paid 10k.

Or a different dealer, where we shook hands on the price. When I asked how to fill out the check they gave me a price of what we shook on plus something like 28 cents. That was a fun conversation.

Even the honest ones need to be watched very closely.

61 posted on 08/22/2018 7:16:23 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: SamAdams76; All

Do any of you have experience using Sam’s Club or Costco for new car buying?


62 posted on 08/22/2018 7:27:47 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: eastexsteve
Never go car shopping alone.

Your sales person can only hustle one of you at a time. The other should be off to the side where they can not see you without turning their head.

Or and always bring the print out of what you are looking at.

63 posted on 08/22/2018 7:33:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice, and somewhere else the tea is getting cold.)
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To: T. P. Pole

it isn’t difficult to find out the typical selling price of any new car. Most all of them will make the same deal for any of the common vehicles. It is just as important that I like the salesman than it is the price. I can buy a car from just about anybody. Might as well like them too.


64 posted on 08/22/2018 7:47:35 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: eastexsteve

bttt


65 posted on 08/22/2018 7:51:04 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Michael.SF.

The designer of the Zero first offered it to the U.S. They turn up their noses at it. So the guy offered it to Japan. The rest is history. AIUI.


66 posted on 08/22/2018 8:01:01 PM PDT by Tucker39 ("It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible." George Washington)
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To: Bonemaker

67 posted on 08/22/2018 8:02:57 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: eastexsteve
My wife and I use the good cop/bad cop against them and go together. I am the bad cop she is the good cop. We try to go in late in the month close to the noon lunch hour or close to closing time. We realize this a joint exercise against a die hard enemy. We also, if we have a trade in, is to dangle the financing to the dealership. They tend to maximize your trade in. Once talking to the the financing department we opt to pay the entire amount in cash, with a customary allowance of 3 business days, by passing their screw you deals. This has worked multiple times. If we get heavy push back we laugh and walkout. On to to the next one. All This is predicated on doing your homework 1st re: values etc
68 posted on 08/22/2018 8:29:38 PM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: Polynikes

One other thing is never buy from a Paul Blanco dealer ship.


69 posted on 08/22/2018 8:32:19 PM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: eastexsteve

An older gentleman arrives at a car dealership with a pretty young women who was his er.. girlfriend. He bargains hard as he and the car dealer go back and forth on price and features.
He is going to get the best price to impress the young lady.

The young women is growing inpatient as time goes by and says: “I want the red one!”

The dealer smiled and the older gentleman gives in and pays what the dealer wanted all along.....


70 posted on 08/22/2018 8:59:02 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: eastexsteve

Last time I bought a new car - I test drive what I wanted and then...

1) I priced it on the internet for average sales price in my area with the options I wanted.
2) I asked for prices from the 2 dealerships in the area for what I wanted.
3) I put them in a bidding war.

Ended up about $1k cheaper then the average for the area and got the better of one of the sales managers. He told me that he could ship it out of state and make more. My reply was...well better order the truck, because if you can’t beat this price I have to do what’s right by my family and go with the other dealer. He was ticked.

Only downside is the place that lost out is the one that I prefer from a service department - they are really good. A bit annoyed when I took the new car in the first time, but when I told them to take all that advertisement stuff off I didn’t ask for they were happy to oblige. :)


71 posted on 08/22/2018 10:41:36 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: reed13k

Forgot to mention - other then the original test drive - I didn’t set foot in either dealership until I inspected and took possession of the car.


72 posted on 08/22/2018 10:43:10 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: PAR35

In the 1980s I wanted to sell a 1979 Dodge sedan to John Hine Pontiac of San Diego. I was offered $1,900.00. I decided to think it over, returning the next day. They reduced their offer to $1,800.00.


73 posted on 08/22/2018 10:52:56 PM PDT by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: hoagy62

“Two words....Cal Worthington. Look him up”

A legend along with Ralph Williams in So Cal. for Auto sales. Both now long gone, but I believe a Nephew or Grandson took over for Cal when he passed away in 2013.

Calvin Coolidge Worthington, decorated B29 Pilot WWII.


74 posted on 08/23/2018 4:07:53 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: TNoldman
Why weren’t you there WITH your Wife. You are a jerk.

And, you obviously can't read.

75 posted on 08/23/2018 5:21:38 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: SamAdams76
I probably overpay for my cars a little.

Me too....In 2013, after owning my car for 18 years, I said screw it, I need a new car.

So that July I leased a Ford Focus. In December of 2015, maybe 7 months before the 3 year lease was up, I got an email from the dealership that they might be able to offer me an early out on the lease. So I went to the dealership and the first young guy (Jared) who approached me asked me who the original salesman was that sold me the 2013 and I told him they guy was a jerk and I didn't want to deal with that guy again and I would deal him (Jared) . So we sat down and he said they couldn't make an offer at that time but he would contact me in the future if they could.

Well 5 months later (April 2016), Jared called me back and said they could make a deal since I only had 3 months left on the lease. I said OK.

So he asked me what I was interested in and I told him I was happy with the Focus and would get another one. So he asked me what color and I said Red. Then he asked what options and I said everything my existing Focus had. He said he would get back with me.

So the next day he called me back and said he had what I wanted so I said I'll take it. Then he asked me when I would like to pick it up and I said Tuesday of the following week in the morning........He said ok

Drove in that Tuesday, dropped off my old Focus, signed some papers and drove off with the new one.........

All that was done in just two phone calls and a monthly lease payment that I could afford (nothing out of pocket)..........Easy Peezy.

76 posted on 08/23/2018 5:48:40 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I once found a needle in a haystack but it wasn't the one I was looking for...)
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To: SamAdams76

I probably overpay for my cars a little. I don’t worry too much about that.

I make all the deals on our cars. I’m just better at it than hubby. Your whole process sounds like mine except for that line. I like a deal and most people are shocked at how little I pay for our cars. We have 2 Mercedes sitting in our garage that we paid no more for than a regular brand because of my deal making. lol


77 posted on 08/23/2018 6:03:18 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Hot Tabasco
I just don't like the haggling and I find the traditional approach to purchasing a car cumbersome and very unpleasant. Sitting around in a dealership as the sales rep fills out his four square form while looking for an angle to increase his commission is like getting a root canal.

So I just go in there with a price I'm willing to pay (after doing some research), tell them I have my own financing, exactly the options I want and tell them to make a deal. It usually goes pretty quick.

Another tip, I usually don't take a car from the lot. The combination of options and color I want are usually not on the lot and so it has to be special ordered. So it might take a few weeks. I'm okay with that. I'm getting exactly the car I want and not getting rooked into buying a car that might have sat in their inventory for months.

I also try to buy right before the next year's model comes out as they are looking to clear the current year's inventory and willing to give me my price. A new car is a new car. I don't care that it's soon to be "last year's model."

I like the Apple approach to pricing. You want a particular iPad - it's $499 - no matter what. No haggling. In and out.

78 posted on 08/23/2018 6:08:40 AM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Recently bought a new Toyota. They did the “let me speak with my manager” thing three times. Each time they left, I played on my phone. Each time he came back, I asked him to hold on, then went outside to shoot the shit with my gf on the phone.

Two can play the game. Time they spend sitting at their desk waiting for you is time they can’t sell to anyone else.

I got a great deal, but I was at the dealership for almost 4 hours, despite giving them the stock number of the vehicle I wanted when walking in the door.

In the the end it was worth it. Got the exact model I wanted at a good price with favorable financing.


79 posted on 08/23/2018 6:28:52 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: AlaskaErik

We bought a new GMC Acadia Denali at the local Chev-Buick-GMC store.

We shopped two dealers and went with the local guy.

Not having a key takes some getting used to.


80 posted on 08/23/2018 11:10:49 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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