Posted on 10/08/2018 6:15:43 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
In the U.S., today is "Columbus Day". Not much is done to celebrate it, although most schools and government jobs have the day off.
It occurred to me that in part, it is due to Spain and Queen Isabella, Christopher Columbus and the discoveries of the New World that has led most of us to even be interested in this site. Just think of how many millions of people speak Spanish now around the world as a result of this discovery. When you think of most of the continent of South America, Central America, Cuba, Puerto Rico, The Dominican Republic, etc. it is amazing how many people speak Spanish as a result of these discoveries.
I was wondering if anyone else had any thoughts or any other history to add. I'm curious.
By the way, my husband (and kids) are a part Italian (like Chris) and part American Indian. I thought I would mention that so no one thinks I'm taking sides.
(Excerpt) Read more at spanishdict.com ...
And bring back the tongues of the Mayans, Incans, and Aztecs. And cultural norms like cannibalism and infant sacrifices...and building temples for their rulers and false gods...
I’m not so sure there are that many Spanish speakers, all the landscapers, roofers, and stockboys, here illegally, that I’ve tried to communicate with, couldn’t speak any western language. They couldn’t count beyond three either. I think they spoke some indigenous lingo unique to the Guatemalan mountain they rolled off of. They were also all so dumb they didn’t know what toilet paper is for.
“They were also all so dumb they didn’t know what toilet paper is for.”
In a lot of those countries the infrastructure hasn’t kept pace. So, the sewage system can’t handle very much, including toilet paper. Therefore, the custom is NOT to flush the used paper down the toilet, but to place it in a receptacle in the bathroom.
When these people come to the US, they think that is the proper custom here, as well.
I am not sure Columbus spoke Spanish either.
As EVIDENCED from his notes in the margin of his copy of the Travels of Marco Polo (Latin) Columbus’ first language was evidently Greek.
Therefore, the custom is NOT to flush the used paper down the toilet, but to place it in a receptacle in the bathroom.
Hispanics must have their panties in a bunch today.
The year 1492 when he sailed was the same year Isabella set as a deadline for Jews to leave or convert to Catholicism. Principal investors in Columbus’ mission were Jews. Believe in coincidences?
“Hispanics must have their panties in a bunch today.”
Columbus Day in Latin America is called the Dia de la Raza; ie, “the Day of the [Latin] Race”.
It stems from a time before Hitler when “race” was used much more loosely than now, and not in a genetic sense (ie, the anglo-saxon “race”, which did not include Germans or anyone outside the British isles).
Nowadays, of course, we are much more sensitive ... but I’m not sure we are not more intolerant, instead of being less so...
unfortunately for them half their “race” is spanish and european
""We of our own motion, and not at your solicitation, do give, concede, and assign for ever to you and your successors, all the islands, and main lands, discovered; and which may hereafter, be discovered, towards the west and south; whether they be situated towards India, or towards any other part whatsoever, and give you absolute power in them."
Not everyone was ready to concede the issue based on anything the pope had to say. When asked to return some of the treasure looted from Spanish galleons, Francis I responded dryly "The sun shines on me as well as on others. I should be very happy to see the clause in Adam's will which excluded me from my share when the world was being divided.".
While Columbus deserves all credit for what he did, to me, he seems to have been a bit of a bumbler. If left to him, Spain would not have gotten very far in exploiting its discovery. The real credit for establishing Spanish and Spanish culture in the New World belongs to the Conquistadors. Those men came a generation after Columbus. They were mostly from Extremadura, a province in Southwest Spain beside Portugal, which held less than 10% of the country's population at the time. It has always been a mystery to me what special grit these men brought from Extremadura enabling them twice to conquer entire native American civilizations, larger than any existing in Europe at the time, with only a few hundred men and a handful of horses.
He was born Cristoforo Colombo in the Republic of Genoa. The only uses I know of for “Colombo” in America are a Peter Falk TV series and a nickname for weed grown in Colombia.
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Christopher Columbus was a Separdic Jew, and a “Messianic” believer.
He was from the same part of Spain that is presently in rebellion against Spanish rule. (the more things change, the more they stay the same)
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When Columbus sailed to “America” he was following the established route of the Minoan traders, who had been making that trip for centuries.
That is who the “Mayan” people actually were, and why the structures there were also pyramids.
Someone posted a meme of a Native American in her Indian garb flipping the bird in honor of indigenous people’s day on Facebook and I posted a question in response, “Do you think she’s still living in a teepee or do you think she’s appropriated the white man’s lifestyle?”, which seemed to trigger the enlightened poster who apparently can’t take it when it’s dished right back.
Maybe but Spaniards followed, conquered, and spoke Spanish in the colonies they established.
“the custom is NOT to flush the used paper down the toilet, but to place it in a receptacle in the bathroom.”
True enough though not so much “custom” as practical SOP. Also consider that lacking significant annual rainfall, some areas of Latin America (Peru) rely on melting snow pack for household water. Then there’s municipal water & sewage systems that predate even the antiquated underground piping of places like Washington, DC.
Quechua. They speak Quechua.
It's now the language of the parking lot of Home Depot. They have supplanted Spanish speakers.
And yeah, they are low IQ cavemen.
Quechua is the language of the Incas, still spoken in parts of Peru and Bolivia. The Mayans speak something else. In fact, there are about twenty different languages still spoken in the Yucatan and Guatemala by descendants of the Maya. I’ve traveled around the Yucatan, but not Guatemala. It’s hard to believe that the Mayans were not from Southeast Asia, as some could easily be mistaken for Cambodians, although DNA studies suggest that they came here by way of the Bearing land bridge. Many of the Mayan villages I saw had electricity, and were a collection of stick huts with thatched roofs. Each village typically had two large concrete pads, one set up as a basket ball court, and the other with a row of washing machines on it. I was told these were a gift from the PRI for the Mayan vote. The villages I didn’t see were far off the beaten path, with the entrance marked by a few plastic bottles tied to a bush near the roadside, so the bus would know where to stop.
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