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Vanity: Why Does Deep State/MSM Want us to Hate Saudi Arabia?
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Posted on 11/17/2018 1:16:54 AM PST by TigerClaws

Saudis have always run a brutal dictatorship. We needed the oil. They owned the Bushes. We looked the other way. Obama bowed before them literally.

We look the other way with China, which is an even more brutal dictatorship (in terms of murdering their own citizens).

Why is the CIA leaking stories to CNN about Jamal Khashoggi's murder?

Why is the MSM running story after story about this to shape American popular opinion?

I'm confused why they want me to care.

Please fill me in on the real explanation. Thanks.


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1 posted on 11/17/2018 1:16:54 AM PST by TigerClaws
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Maybe the pay offs are late this month.......


2 posted on 11/17/2018 1:18:39 AM PST by JParris
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smells like it to me.


3 posted on 11/17/2018 1:23:38 AM PST by thinden
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It admittedly does have all the hallmarks of a frame-up.
4 posted on 11/17/2018 1:25:16 AM PST by SpaceBar
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My guess is the elite don’t like the new crown prince. He has made a lot of changes that probably weakened their influence. Just a guess.


5 posted on 11/17/2018 1:30:56 AM PST by dgbrown
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IMO, its about oil. If the Deep State can foment ill will between Trump and Saudi Arabia, the hope is they would curtail oil production (or an embargo), cause an oil price spike, and precipitate a worldwide recession.

Presto, Trump’s main accomplishment - the booming economy - would go away.


6 posted on 11/17/2018 1:34:38 AM PST by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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It’s for the same reason they want a war with Russia.


7 posted on 11/17/2018 1:36:12 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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That makes sense.

Finding radical Islam and 9/11 = ignored for years.

Now they want to stir up an embargo.

Must be to tank our economy. Hurt Trump.


8 posted on 11/17/2018 1:38:40 AM PST by TigerClaws
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You could jump in Doc Brown’s DeLorean and set the time circuits for February 1898 to check out a parallel situation involving an “incident” and US media reaction. Or just read a reliable history book...remember Ecclesiastes: “There is nothing new under the sun.” Also - “History doesn’t repeat itself but does rhyme.”


9 posted on 11/17/2018 1:39:18 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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Ironically it’s the Putinists and Russian trolls on these boards that peddle pro-Iran, pro-Syria nonsense along with their anti-Saudi points. (Usually as a way to mask their latent anti-Israel and anti-Semitic sentiments.)

And those who attempt to pit Shiites and Sunnis against the other as if there is a real difference.

There isn’t.


10 posted on 11/17/2018 1:44:19 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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The United States and Saudi Arabia are economically intertwined. Damaging the relationship would harm the United States. Harming the United States hurts Trump’s chances of being successful. As Bill Mau her said, “It may sound awful, but I want a serious recession as that’s the only way to get rid of Trump.”


11 posted on 11/17/2018 1:51:58 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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The fact that you are asking the question indicates you are breaking the conditioning.


12 posted on 11/17/2018 1:57:55 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: TigerClaws

[Saudis have always run a brutal dictatorship. We needed the oil. They owned the Bushes. We looked the other way. Obama bowed before them literally.]


Saudi Arabia isn’t particularly brutal. Executions with a sword are bloody, but in a practical sense, no different from hangings. About 150 executions are carried out per year. On a per capita basis (0.46 per 100K), that is higher than the US, which had 23 in 2017 (.007 per 100K). But you have to weigh that against the fact that the murder rate in Saudi Arabia is 1.5 per 100,000 vs 5.3 for the US. Another way of putting this is that our low death penalty rate comes at a cost of 10,000 additional murders per year vs if we had Saudi Arabia’s murder rates. If we executed people at Saudi Arabia’s rates, we’d have 1472 people on the gurney a year. But our murder rate would probably drop to 4800. A life for a life, and pretty soon, all the murderers are killed.


13 posted on 11/17/2018 1:59:17 AM PST by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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CNN covered up torture abuse and murder under Saddam Hussein to keep their Baghdad bureau.

#MeToo?

How about Hussein’s rape rooms???


14 posted on 11/17/2018 2:01:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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Distraction from Deep State Shenanigans


15 posted on 11/17/2018 2:09:34 AM PST by hattend
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Because the sponsors of the big media companies want the Trump Administration to suffer a terrible failure in foreign relations. They’ll even do it at the cost of the people of the United States in a war.

Those sponsors want more than anything else to control (enslave) the people of the planet (globalism), so they want their trade regime to continue, along with pulling hordes of people in from radically different cultures to the United States. That’s also why they want to violate our Second Amendment rights.

Our Second Amendment rights, along with being the last line of defense against an attempt at imposing severe domestic tyranny, are the last line of defense against foreign invasion and occupation. The U.S.A. is the place where guerrilla warfare against a foreign occupier would be most effective (American ingenuity). I know what I’m talking about here but won’t go into personal details now.

So who would benefit from the U.S.A. being invaded and occupied by a main foreign trading partner that is also bent on conquering the world? The answer should be obvious.


16 posted on 11/17/2018 2:12:29 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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The goal of every US administration since the discovery of oil there in the Middle East is to prevent any single power from unifying the whole oil-producing region under its rule and taking oil prices to the moon. Accounting for fairly minimal transportation costs (2 to 3 cents per gallon from the Middle East to the US), oil has a single price. We import 10m barrels a day. Even if we imported none, US oil prices would be set globally, because oil is a fairly generic commodity. Middle Eastern oil price spikes mean pain at the gasoline pump stateside. We “tolerate” Saudi Arabia for the same reason we “tolerate” other governments worldwide, friendly or even hostile, that are not the US of A - we’re not interested in annexing and colonizing the world, and at the present moment, we lack the necessary ruthlessness to be successful at that game.


17 posted on 11/17/2018 2:12:44 AM PST by Zhang Fei (They can have my pitbull when they pry his cold dead jaws off my ass.)
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I heard some details from European radio a few hours ago about the leaks from the Agency. The Agency does not have proof—that is, there’s no “smoking gun.” There’s only circumstantial evidence, which makes the occurrence seem even more strange.

Who knows? It’s President Trump’s Agency now. Maybe we’ll find out during the months to come.


18 posted on 11/17/2018 2:17:03 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Trying to hurt Trump is exactly what it’s about.

Liberals wanted us to look the other way after 911. They never had a problem with their human rights problems before now.

Libs just want to make it difficult for Trump. They’ve strained our relationship with Russia. It doesn’t matter if it’s harmful to the USA. They’re only interested in their agenda. Libs agenda is to obstruct and resist Trump.

Saudis have a lot of money invested in the US. They pull out and it could shake our economy.


19 posted on 11/17/2018 2:17:18 AM PST by boycott
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What I do know is their "care about a dead slammie" campaign aint workin.

Who cares about another dead mudslime?

20 posted on 11/17/2018 2:17:36 AM PST by rawcatslyentist ("All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing")
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