Posted on 11/23/2018 4:12:49 AM PST by marktwain
Good points.
I carried a 44 for the same reason until I read the number of grizzly attacks that were stopped by a 9 mm. I’m sure some of it has to do with the effect of 15-18 rounds vs 6, having to do with sudden blood loss. The cardiovascular system is a closed container, and the severing of medium and small medium arteries starts to add up. Once a certain threshold of severed blood vessels is reached, the animal will drop in its tracks.
The G2 R.I.P. round opens into a star shape, with a significant increase in diameter.
Good choice also.
I own a Glock 20 and have ended up in the water with no I’ll effects. I’m confident he could hose down the gun if needed.
The 10mm feels good in a plastic gun, full power rounds are more comfortable to shoot than 45 auto in a steel government model.
The clockwork in a revolver is more complicated than a government model or a Glock, that is part of the reason they are so expensive.
Humble JUST loves VANITY POSTS.
Kanawa did a great job on that black bear, using all he had, a Buck hunting knife.
I agree, the 45-70 is tops on the biggy category.
I mean to have one of those Henry 45-70s.
I'm skeptical of that claim. Bears do not use their heads for butting or ramming so their skulls are not thick. It's not like shooting a bison in the forehead. At pistol ranges, a .40 S&W (as would a 9mm) will pass through a bear's skull provided the shooter remembers that a bear's brain sits low in its head and aims right between the eyes. I'd want something more substantial but it could get the job done.
Both are nice guns but the Marlin fit my purposes better (and was cheaper). I think I'm in line to get a .41 magnum Blackhawk for Christmas. If Santa does come through, I think I'll get a Henry Big Boy in the .41 as well so the pistol doesn't get lonely.
Yes, but most states prohibit fmjs in the field. Also, fmjs were used 130 years ago since softs were notorious for failing to stay together. Now, except for ele, maybe buff, a good controlled expansion monometal or heavy jacketed soft(partition) does better than anything else.
You are correct, there are multiple videos of multiple calibers penetrating grizly skulls on YouTube. The trick is hitting that target coming at you at 40 mph swinging and bobbing.
Well, there are attacks and there are attacks. On a thread where the bear won, not sure the legalities are the issue. However, many wildlife biologists, most all of the ones the prosecutor knows, will explain that most “attacks” are bluff charges. That’s true. The way you tell the difference, shoot the bear outside of 20 yards, it’s a bluff. Inside 20 yards, maybe you’ve got a shot, maybe two. But you’re not emptying a magazine. I don’t disagree with what you’ve said about the cardiovascular system, but anything other than a head or spinal (imo luck) shot, Mr. Bear has plenty of time to do damage before expiring. And if you’re talking grizzlies or large blacks, penetration is an issue. Even with a head shot. Though common sense tells me a shot to the skull that doesn’t penetrate might put him down. Common sense backed by zero experience. IMO, in a situation where a bear attack is a risk, a long gun is a necessity. I don’t hunt elk, but I’m thinking this would be one of those times. If I couldn’t pack out a large caliber carbine, I probably shouldn’t be hunting the backcountry. Which I don’t. As to the hunters this happened to, hindsight is 20:20, I’ve no doubt the guide had more practical knowledge than I do.
For hunting, I don't know about this situation. Could vary state by state, particularly since they were out in season, I presume, and may have had an unused tag. Many states would consider carrying a rifle in season without a tag, hunting. All kinds of crazy laws.
Her ein MO, one can carry their CC weapon on their person, I suppose one could load it with FMJs as one is not “hunting” per say with the concealed carry piece, but f actually hunting with a pistol, can’t have FMJs... So okay for pers protection, but taboo for bona fide hunting.
Kinda cool, here you can carry your handgun of any caliber openly or concealed while hunting, and hunt with your spear or atlatl at the same time, old meets new!
And, yes, we have bears, mostly in the lower half of the sate, but black bears nevertheless. I have more concern about legged varmints though, espc when hunting on the Federal lands ( MarkTwain NF).
I’ve hiked the AT in that area. I use hiking poles and every few paces I smack them together. Makes a nice loud unmistakable human-sounding “clack”. The only part of a black bear I’ve seen is the back end scampering away.
Well I disagree.
Here is a sectioned skull:
they were bow hunting....
Yea I can read. I was commenting on post 12 which was a comment on post 4. Thank you for playing.
Have never seen a big cat other than while driving, but I agree there are too many.
The temple on a Bear is
A sweet spot,,,
The Snarling,Gapeing hole
With Fangs is what
We would most likely see
and that is a Good Shot as well.
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