Posted on 11/23/2018 4:12:49 AM PST by marktwain
I’m a backwoods revolver carry fan. .44 mag. Showstopper.
With a heavy caliber rifle, not a pistol. Far more power, far more accuracy.
Proving the old adage that you don't have to outrun the bear, you just have to outrun the guy that you are with.
hell of a learning experience...
No gun is big enough when ite in the pack, i will gladly carry my 40 small and weak with undersood extreme penetrating rounds for bears, 14 rounds that i can shoot well beats 4-6 of 44 on target.
There may be issues with carrying a rifle during bow season. I know there are in Oregon.
Fresh kill. Grizzly country. Glock with no magazine or round ready to go. Yeah, sounds like a recipe for a problem.
I love to hike, but if I go ever out to grizzly territory out west in this lifetime, I’m carrying. I frequently hike the southern Appalachians and will carry bear spray if I’m solo. I’ve had several black bear encounters but they have all resulted in the bear hauling butt the other way. That being said the black bears I’ve seen are unbelievably fast and in the event of surprise encounter that results in a full on charge I doubt anyone would have time to deploy spray or even squeeze a round off. For that reason I intentionally make noise by stepping on branches and talking etc.
none of my 3 glocks have jammed, my fns 40 on my side at this moment has never jammed.
There’s a local guy that had to put the muzzle of his Glock .40 to a black bear’s head when it chomped on his thigh. He said everything was a little bit of a blur, but distinctly remembered smoke coming out of the little hole in the bear’s head.
Lipseys has the Super Blackhawks in .454 Casull and .480 Ruger. They are five shot models.
Years ago I carried a hand load of 255? Grain flat nosed loaded to long colt specs in a .45 ACP Springfield XD after reading a very interesting GOA article about it where the author tested the firearm’s ability to handle the load. I never shot anything living during the time I carried it, but if I were in bear country, oh wait, I am!!! Just down the street they caught a big mamma bear on a security cam in a back yard! Sorta hope she eats the thief that’s been going around our neighborhood at night...
Anywho, the ARs I got handy will kill a bar just fine with a few judicious 30 round mag dumps.
All an un-loaded gun is good for is getting you killed.
.45/70 is my current love affair with firearms now. 500 grain hard cast moving at about 1400 fps, it’s a big reason there aren’t buffalo roaming around much anymore. Pretty much kill any creature walking this earth, and coming out of a Henry Big Boy even looks great doing it too.
You might be right but I doubt the law is written so as to prohibit carrying a rifle in the field during bow season. Back when I used to bow hunt in Idaho, you couldn’t carry a rifle while bow hunting but there was nothing to prevent you from carrying a rifle while packing out game during bow season or for any other reason as long as you weren’t bow hunting. I also wouldn’t be surprised that a licensed guide would have a different set of rules than a bow hunter.
People make mistakes. It happens. Sometimes they don’t make mistakes and end up in a bad way. Me? In this circumstance, I’m quite sure I’d have had my .45-70 within reach.
Sad!
Yes, sad. For the Elk and the Bear.
Those two bozos should have stayed home watching football games.
As the article says, handguns work well for bear attacks. Surprisingly, plenty of grizzly attacks have been repelled by 9mm handguns.
A good round for this occasion would be the G2 R.I.P. or the Civic Duty, which comes in several different calibers.
Oregon had to fight just to make it legal to carry a sidearm during bow season. Or, rather, to convince O. Fish snd Wildlife that only the legislature could make rules about carrying firearms. Pre-emption. Gotta read the regs. I’m guessing that the odds of running into a grizzly were kinda remote. A 10mm seems like minimum effort, and no excuse for not having it in a holster. Live and learn...if you live.
Repelled, I don't doubt that. Unfortunately the difference between a bluff charge and a bear intent on killing you leaves little time. One, maybe a second well placed shot to the nervous system. Personally I'd prefer a .44 though I carry a 357 in not grizzly country, with a hard cast bullet, I use Buffalo Bore. And I carry spray too. Not suggesting there's anything wrong with a semiauto, particularly for someone used to using one. Against a bear intent on harming you, I'd question hollow points. And short of a successful head or spine shot, a fatally wounded bear has 20 to 30 seconds to deal with you. Not a situation I ever want to deal with.
My Christmas present from last year, although I got the Marlin. A slow bullet but it hits like a freight train when it gets there. The dedicated bear rounds are really impressive (at both ends of the gun). If the shooter does his job, the .45/70 will do its job on even the biggest bear on the planet. I can see why the .45/70 carbines are popular with Alaskan bear guides - a lot of fire power in a small package.
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