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Forced Windows 10 Update Paranoia Returns Due to Silent Microsoft Release
Softpedia News ^ | Dec 29, 2018 | Bogdan Popa

Posted on 12/30/2018 8:48:22 AM PST by dayglored

Some systems may get version 1809 automatically

Forced Windows 10 updates aren’t entirely a new concept, and most users found out this is really a thing back in the days when this operating system was available as a free upgrade for Windows 7 and 8.1 devices.

But while Microsoft promised never to embrace forced updates again in the future, a recent company release makes some believe there’s a chance it could happen one more time with Windows 10 version 1809, also known as the October 2018 Update.

Microsoft rolled out a silent update to KB4023814 on December 24, and by the looks of things, the purpose of this update is to push Windows 10 version 1809 to some devices.How to block a potential update

It’s all possible through the Windows Update Assistant, which is enabled by this update precisely on the systems where it is installed.

“If you're currently running Windows 10 version 1507, version 1511, version 1607, version 1703 or version 1709, your computer detects the Windows 10 Update Assistant automatically. Then, you can expect to receive a notification that states that your device must have the latest security updates installed and then initiates an attempt to update your device,” Microsoft explains on the official KB page.

While forced updates are something that many people are worried about because they could affect their productivity and workflow, Microsoft itself actually offers a very easy way to remove the Update Assistant and thus make sure that version 1809 isn’t installed unless you specifically choose to do it.

All you need to do is to launch an elevated Command Prompt window and then type the following command:C:\Windows10Upgrade\Windows10UpgraderApp.exe /ForceUninstall

Beginning this month, Windows 10 version 1809 is available for all users who manually check for updates in Windows Update. The automatic rollout to devices across the world continues, and your system would be offered the update once it is considered to be fully compatible.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: linux; microsoft; windows10; windowspinglist; windowsupdate
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BOHICA.

"We have all been here before..."

1 posted on 12/30/2018 8:48:22 AM PST by dayglored
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To: Abby4116; afraidfortherepublic; aft_lizard; AF_Blue; AppyPappy; arnoldc1; ATOMIC_PUNK; bajabaja; ...
Windows 10 Update... Open wide! ... PING!

You can find all the Windows Ping list threads with FR search: just search on keyword "windowspinglist".

2 posted on 12/30/2018 8:49:00 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: All

Win10 and forced updates drove me to . . . . Linux.


3 posted on 12/30/2018 9:00:56 AM PST by BipolarBob (God bless America - except for California.)
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To: dayglored

Windows 10 Rolling Release rolling right over you so I now use Manjaro Linux rolling release because they text it before hand ,LOL


4 posted on 12/30/2018 9:05:43 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: dayglored

This update brought my laptop to its knees. Once it is installed you cannot roll it back with a system restore. After it was installed I had to reboot into “safe command prompt mode” to delete three ISO files that had some innocuous malware in them from years ago that put Windows Defender into a loop trying to extract and delete the files. In other words this latest creation scans and tries to alter compressed archives, but hangs up on some of them.


5 posted on 12/30/2018 9:05:48 AM PST by fireman15
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To: BipolarBob

Win10 and forced updates drove me to . . . . Linux.

If you have a newish laptop with an 8th or 9th generation Intel processor the drivers probably do not exist to run Linux in a native environment.


6 posted on 12/30/2018 9:07:40 AM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15
> If you have a newish laptop ...

Funny, it doesn't -look- Newish...

Oh, wait, you can't make that joke any more. Nevermind..

7 posted on 12/30/2018 9:16:45 AM PST by dayglored ("Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government."`)
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To: fireman15

I have found that NOT to be the case. Just bought a 8th gen PC for my son. While the driver for the wifi was not included in the Mint 19 distribution, my son (Linux novice) was able to not only find the right driver but install it without my help.

I am of the opinion that since Linux is killing the server market, that many manufactures are now more willing to support Linux driver. Granted not 100% yet but rapidly improving.


8 posted on 12/30/2018 9:19:17 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: BipolarBob
Win10 and forced updates drove me to . . . . Linux.

I too am considering making the change as well to Linux Mint 19. In the meantime though after much consternation, anguish, anger, re installation after my working OS getting crashed and a lot of cursing MicroSoft under my breath I finally found a fix on a web site that correctly instructed me on where and how to make a change in the system registry to prevent the all too obnoxious and badly unwanted and poorly executed OS mandated updates (downloads). Since then I just get an occasional warning that my OS is out of date and I should immediately update the system.

I just ignore the warnings and life moves on. And life has become a bit more simpler since stopping MS from hijacking my computer and replacing my working Win10 OS with a buggy bloatware and crash prone Win10 OS piece of crap at long last.

9 posted on 12/30/2018 9:53:24 AM PST by Ron H. (Gab.ai)
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To: fireman15

I disabled updates on my laptop several months ago, because every time the update ran, the ‘puter would freeze up and reboot, then not operate worth a bean.

Allowed an update a couple of weeks ago, and still the same issue.


10 posted on 12/30/2018 9:55:44 AM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: dayglored

Can’t wait to turn on my computer to find out if it works or not.


11 posted on 12/30/2018 9:56:30 AM PST by TalBlack (It's hard to shoot people when they are shooting back at you...)
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To: Ron H.

I never knew if I had a virus or not with Win10. Scan after scan with one anti-virus after another, all I knew is my puter was getting slower and slower every day. I finally threw in the towel.


12 posted on 12/30/2018 9:58:27 AM PST by BipolarBob (God bless America - except for California.)
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To: Don W

I upgraded to Windows Pro mostly to get control over automatic updates, but I got a little complacent and started allowing them again. After this latest fiasco I went back into policy editor and disabled them again.


13 posted on 12/30/2018 10:19:53 AM PST by fireman15
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To: taxcontrol
Many manufactures are now more willing to support Linux driver. Granted not 100% yet but rapidly improving.

Much of the software that I use do not have Linux versions. In some cases such as 3D design and even photo and video editing there are no equivalent packages. As far as the drivers... they will eventually be available for many computers, but trying to get all the kinks out of an installation for a laptop with no manufacturer support can be very problematic.

14 posted on 12/30/2018 10:30:32 AM PST by fireman15
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To: fireman15

I find that most commercial MS 3d design / video editing software can be replaced with similar Linux software. Photoshop can be replaced with Gimp and most 3D design software can be replaced with FreeCAD or OpenSCAD. Not all ways the case, but for that vast majority of features offered, there is a Linux replacement but perhaps not a Linux version.


15 posted on 12/30/2018 11:34:56 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: dayglored
Where this is leading is MS is preparing (eventually) to push all Win10 users onto the Win10 successor, whether you want it or not. No one who's seen it is talking publicly but it's believed it will run as a service, not an OS, and like all services the user must make periodic payments to continue utilizing it.

Because MS has lost the ability to create something you'd voluntarily leave behind your existing OS for. So instead of leaving you to run Win10 at no further cost for the next 15 years, they're preparing to force you onto Windows 'X,' which essentially will be the inverse of "ransomware." Because ransomware to have to pay to get rid of. But you'll have to pay ransom in perpetuity to keep Windows 'X' running.

And if you think that can't possibly be legal, check the MS EULA. You don't own the OS you're running. MS has never sold an OS, not a one. All the way back to PC-DOS 1.0, they only ever licensed the use of their software. The software itself remains theirs to do with as they will.

16 posted on 12/30/2018 11:56:27 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: fireman15
If I had the ability to reinstall Windows 10 version 1507, version 1511 or version 1607, and I knew how to config the policy editor and disable the automatic updates, I would do it.

Anyone know where to locate ISOs of those versions, and know how to configure the policy editor to stop automatic updates?

17 posted on 12/30/2018 1:04:05 PM PST by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: dayglored

“All you need to do is...”. The MS version of The Neverending Story.

:(


18 posted on 12/30/2018 1:07:55 PM PST by chulaivn66 (My answer is no. Your move.)
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To: dayglored
"We have all been here before..."

If I had ever been here before on another time around the wheel I would pro'bly know just how to deal. With all of you.


19 posted on 12/30/2018 2:05:54 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: ducttape45
If I had the ability to reinstall Windows 10 version 1507, version 1511 or version 1607, and I knew how to config the policy editor and disable the automatic updates, I would do it.

I purchased a Pro license from a “reputable” dealer on eBay which has the “policy editor”. It has been working for a year now. I use other licenses for Windows 7 and other Windows 10 Pro virtual machines. I have no idea what the origins of these licenses are. The sellers are in Germany, England or other European countries and they cost under $10 for the most part. So far none of them have quit working??? The sellers claim that they are from “recycled” computers. I do not know if one is allowed to transfer a license under the terms of use here in the United States.

As far as getting one of the previous versions... if you have the installation media that came with your computer you can probably reinstall the operating system, go into your network settings and specify that you are using a metered connection in your network settings and then change the settings in Windows Update so that you do not accept updates when on a metered connection. After that apply an upgraded license and then use the policy editor specifying you do not to accept automatic updates.

20 posted on 12/30/2018 4:42:41 PM PST by fireman15
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