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Democrat-touted modern monetary theory is a joke that's not funny
The Hour ^ | January 17,2019 | Michael R. Strain

Posted on 01/18/2019 5:41:57 AM PST by gattaca

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1 posted on 01/18/2019 5:41:57 AM PST by gattaca
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In a short review of MMT, the economist Stan Veuger (my colleague at the American Enterprise Institute) notes that on its face this is not all that different from current policies that deliver benefits today and costs tomorrow, including the deficit-financed 2017 tax cuts.

Author is implicitly agreeing with this democrat tripe: "...deficit-financed 2017 tax cuts." It's not the government's money, it's the taxpayers'. If a tax cut actually resulting in less government revenue, then the government spending should be decreased, to balance the congressional budget. But tax cuts increase government revenue! Wasn't the latest report that 2018 was a record US government tax collection year? I'm sure the congressional budget will reflect that in decreased spending and taxes, right???? Hah! Let alone is there no balanced budget, there is no budget period. And this government partial shut-down is over a continuing resolution to increase the US borrowing limit, so that the deficit spending can continue. Right?

I know that all governments fear being controlled by others, so none wants to have its currency printed by someone else. But being able simply to print more money, when more spending is wanted, is just taking on more government debt, and deflating the value of the money already in circulation. So easy to understand. And I'm not even an economist. Don't even play one on TV. And didn't stay in a Holiday Inn last night.

2 posted on 01/18/2019 6:01:02 AM PST by Notthemomma
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This article is kind of a mess (IMO).

The author is acknowledging what... there is somelogic or truth to unlimited spending and printing money to pay the bills? Or is he suggesting he understands why nincompoops like it (or even understand it's ramifications)?

Then there is some veiled and complicated explanation about the downside of this monetary policy.... Really?

Good Lord. The monetary policy espoused by these folks where spending is funded through printed money has been tried. But the article never mentions the root cause and effect of it. It adds currency into the economy without any production. It devalues the money. It creates inflation and makes saved dollars worth less.

Magabee? Zimbabwe? The article missed the basics.

3 posted on 01/18/2019 6:01:47 AM PST by Tenacious 1
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(My first paragraph above is a quote from the posted article. I still can’t figure out how to make the forum automatically identify a quote. Guess I’ll have to use italics or the words “quote” in front of it, etc. Sorry if anyone was confused, or didn’t read the full except of the posted article.)


4 posted on 01/18/2019 6:02:46 AM PST by Notthemomma
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Hey, it worked so well in Venezuela!!!


5 posted on 01/18/2019 6:09:44 AM PST by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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I agree. I hear AOC pushing this and calling anyone who disagrees essentially too stupid to understand.

I just like to read what other FReepers have to say.


6 posted on 01/18/2019 6:12:51 AM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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Any government that issues its own currency can always pay its bills

At least until somebody decides they have no confidence in your currency . . . spent any Confederate currency lately, anyone??

7 posted on 01/18/2019 6:21:38 AM PST by RatRipper
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So, a national economic policy premised on the notion of the Free Lunch. They really think we can continue to spend a trillion dollars a year (and rising) of imaginary money indefinitely with no adverse consequences. As we look through the history of civilization can we find a single instance where that’s worked? “Money for nothing and your chicks for free”


8 posted on 01/18/2019 6:22:35 AM PST by circlecity
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People who retired a generation ago retired with savings worth x. Time moved on, government printed money. Now that generational savings is worth MUCH less. Thank you for making the elderly dirt poor, government.


9 posted on 01/18/2019 6:25:30 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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Both parties claim to care about the deficit, but once in power they often act as if they care more about putting their preferred policies in place, whether these are tax cuts in the case of conservatives or new spending programs in the case of liberals.

Time and time again it is shown that lowering tax rates increases tax revenue when the tax rates are too high. The problem isn't the income side of the equation - it's the outgo. Until the orgy of spending in congress (BOTH parties) ends, the deficit will continue to soar.

10 posted on 01/18/2019 6:29:38 AM PST by MortMan (Satan was merely the FIRST politician who pretended to speak for God.)
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Yes, a government that issues its own currency can pay its bills.

You mean like continentals during the Revolutionary war and greenbacks during the civil war? They either ended up nearly worthless or had to be redeemed by gold.The Constitution prohibited the Federal government from issuing paper currency.

11 posted on 01/18/2019 6:31:37 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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I always italicize quotes like this: < I >Quote.< /I> Unquote.

You can look up html codes on the internet. Whenever you use one, you have to format your whole post using html codes. So I use < p > at the ends of paragraphs.

Note that I placed spaces into the html examples so that they would display. The actual functional codes don’t show in the final post.

12 posted on 01/18/2019 6:41:42 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Judging from how they behave at budget time most Republicans apparently believe in MMT too.


13 posted on 01/18/2019 7:30:27 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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“...deliver benefits today and costs tomorrow, including the deficit-financed 2017 tax cuts...”

Except that the 2017 tax cuts produced increased tax-based income to the government, not an increased deficit, proof that the problem is spending.


14 posted on 01/18/2019 7:34:39 AM PST by budj (combat vet, 2nd of 3 generations)
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You are 100% correct when you say that the problem is out go not income. Which is also the truth for much of the population in this country.

I know people who’s spending will always outstrip their income no matter how much money comes in.

With the government, printing its own money simply ensures that the gap between income and outgo will indefinitely increase.


15 posted on 01/18/2019 7:48:51 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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MMT = UNICORNS


16 posted on 01/18/2019 7:53:11 AM PST by aquila48
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AOC is floating the trillion-dollar platinum coin thing again too.


17 posted on 01/18/2019 8:10:48 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Sadly Keynsian theory is still all the rage today. We have this obsession with consumption over production. Sadly even a GOP Congress, as we have seen, has no desire to cut spending.


18 posted on 01/18/2019 11:19:05 AM PST by Sam Gamgee
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Hi.

I gotta an idea. Make spending equal revenue for a few years. Like maybe a hundred years.

5.56mm


19 posted on 01/18/2019 11:30:28 AM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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they will admit that at some point all that spending could send the economy into a bout of damaging inflation. But they quickly dismiss that risk, in part by pointing to the lack of inflation in advanced economies in the recent past

Sometimes it sort of works in some extremely stable nations, for a short time, so therefore we should make it long term policy! Brilliant!

20 posted on 01/18/2019 11:39:10 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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