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Army testing 1000-mile ‘super gun’ that can be used to strike Chinese targets without retaliation
thenationalsentinel.com ^ | January 25, 2019 | Staff

Posted on 01/25/2019 9:55:01 AM PST by Red Badger

The U.S. Army is continuing development of a so-called “super gun” artillery piece capable of sending projectiles 1,000 miles downrange, or more than far enough to be free of counterbattery fire from existing enemy guns.

Top service officials say the new gun, when fully developed and deployed, would be able to attack targets in and around China, including Beijing’s bases on the South China Sea islands, well out of range of Chinese defenses.

“You can imagine a scenario where the Navy feels that it cannot get into the South China Sea because of Chinese naval vessels, or whatever,” Army Secretary Mark Esper said during a media roundtable earlier this week.

“We can – from a fixed location, on an island or some other place – engage enemy targets, naval targets, at great distances and maintain our standoff and yet open the door, if you will, for naval assets or Marine assets,” he added.

Testing with extended-range artillery is part of the service’s aim to incorporate hypersonic technology into new weapons systems in which the Pentagon chose some years ago not to weaponize. That’s changing now as near-peer competitors like China and Russia develop and field their own hypersonic delivery systems for both conventional and nuclear warheads.

Task & Purpose asked Esper why the Army believes it needs artillery pieces that can fire shells up to 1,000 miles; he responded by saying that the military has a mission requirement to outrage enemy guns.

“You want to be outside the range that they can hit you,” Esper said.

“Why was the spear developed? Because the other guy had a sword. A spear gives you range,” he said. “Why was the sling developed? Because the spear closed off the range of the sword. You want to always have standoff where you can strike without being struck back. That’s what extended-range cannon artillery gives us, case in point vis-à-vis the Russians.”

In testimony before the Senate Armed Services Committee in April 2016, U.S. Army Chief of Staff General Mark Milley was asked if the U.S. military was outranged or outgunned by any potential adversary.

“Yes … the ones in Europe, really Russia. We don’t like it, we don’t want it, but yes, technically [we are] outranged, outgunned on the ground,” he said.

Last year, reports noted that the Army was developing a new prototype Extended Ranger Cannon Artillery weapon that had a larger-caliber tube and new grooves designed to hang weights for gravity adjustments, really just a modified M777A2 mobile gun.

Officials noted that the modifications increased the weapon’s range from about 30 km (18 miles) to about 70 km (43 miles).

That said, a senior Army official told Warrior Maven, “Just because I can shoot farther, that does not mean I solve the issue. I have to acquire the right target. We want to be able to hit moving targets and targets obscured by uneven terrain.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: geraldbull
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1 posted on 01/25/2019 9:55:01 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger
Somewhere...

Gerald Bull is smiling.

2 posted on 01/25/2019 9:58:23 AM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

That was the name that popped into my mind when I read the headline.


3 posted on 01/25/2019 9:59:21 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Red Badger

Great, how many billions is this boondoggle going to cost us while invaders are streaming over the border and voting in our elections? I wish just one of these “gee whiz” weapons would prove operational in less than a generation. But I guess a military industrial complex generation needs their paychecks.


4 posted on 01/25/2019 10:01:51 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: gaijin

Who is Gerald Bull. Got me curious.


5 posted on 01/25/2019 10:02:10 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Red Badger

I don’t see that a gun like that would our-perform a missile. Especially nap-of-the-earth cruise missiles.

A ballistic (non-guided) path is VERY easy to track and calculate when the projectile originated. And answer with a hyper-sonic, nap-of-the-earth cruise response.

...unless the long-range projectile is also stealthy.


6 posted on 01/25/2019 10:02:22 AM PST by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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To: Red Badger
“super gun” artillery piece capable of sending projectiles 1,000 miles downrange...

Placing it in the center of a 2000 mile border, 1000 miles to the right and 1000 miles to the left, could do wonders.

7 posted on 01/25/2019 10:03:31 AM PST by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Gerald Bull was totally amazing.

A maverick, far ahead of this time:

The Werner Von Braun of artillery.

In the end, TOO good for his own good, I guess.


8 posted on 01/25/2019 10:03:36 AM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Gerald Bull chose his employers poorly ...


9 posted on 01/25/2019 10:04:33 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: William of Barsoom

I would prefer Rods From God. Which I happen to think we have tested and deployed. But I have no inside information. I’m just guessing.


10 posted on 01/25/2019 10:05:16 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: RinaseaofDs

See post 8 above, for the nutshell version.

Gerald Bull took on a wide array of int’l clients who had artillery needs.

Eventually the Israelis started to dislike it.

Eh....SOMETHING happened to him, and it wasn’t good.


11 posted on 01/25/2019 10:05:18 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Joe 6-pack

Same here! Got to be leveraging his research.

Maybe we’ll see the return of Coastal Artillery! Sign me up.


12 posted on 01/25/2019 10:06:37 AM PST by HombreSecreto (The new Oldsmobiles are in early this year)
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To: Red Badger

The cost of firing the weapon would be the advantage over a cruise missile.


13 posted on 01/25/2019 10:06:59 AM PST by Agatsu77
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To: HombreSecreto

We can shoot down artillery shells


14 posted on 01/25/2019 10:07:37 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: William of Barsoom

“I don’t see that a gun like that would our-perform a missile. Especially nap-of-the-earth cruise missiles.

A ballistic (non-guided) path is VERY easy to track and calculate when the projectile originated. And answer with a hyper-sonic, nap-of-the-earth cruise response.

...unless the long-range projectile is also stealthy.”

An artillery shell, even a very sophisticated artillery shell, is way, way cheaper than a missile. So you get lower cost and a much higher number of deliveries on target at a rapid pace.


15 posted on 01/25/2019 10:07:39 AM PST by Bayan
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To: ClearCase_guy

I yearn more for the days when battleships were the ultimate weapon.

This new stuff is just ridiculous.


16 posted on 01/25/2019 10:09:13 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: gaijin
" the military has a mission requirement to outrage enemy guns.""

Here's an outraged gun's best friend, an angry bullet.


17 posted on 01/25/2019 10:09:26 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: AppyPappy

We can shoot down artillery shells

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Lasers?


18 posted on 01/25/2019 10:09:57 AM PST by laplata (The Left/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Battleships have tremendous romantic appeal. So much firepower. It’s pure, flamboyant Aggro.

But, alas, they don’t make much sense anymore.


19 posted on 01/25/2019 10:11:34 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: laplata

Iron Dome missiles


20 posted on 01/25/2019 10:12:20 AM PST by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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