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Did Gun Control Prevent Jews From Stopping The Holocaust?
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Posted on 03/21/2019 10:40:53 AM PDT by atlana

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To: atlana
With elected like AOC, or Ilhan Omar, shown here giving the "Islam Forever" sign and Rashida Tlaib who first thing out-of-the-box was to call the people's President an extremely vulgar name connecting it with impeachment....these and other Muslim women mean trouble for our government and our way of life, so very different from theirs.
22 posted on 03/21/2019 11:19:21 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Harpotoo

This is the “don’t fight back against people who want to kill you because it might make them mad, and cause them to try to kill you” theory of self preservation.


23 posted on 03/21/2019 11:19:47 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: atlana

In no way could armed people have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi state,”

French Resistance
The French Resistance was the collection of French movements that fought against the Nazi German occupation of France and the collaborationist Vichy régime during the Second World War. Resistance cells were small groups of armed men and women, who, in addition to their guerrilla warfare activities, were also publishers of underground newspapers, providers of first-hand intelligence information, and maintainers of escape networks that helped Allied soldiers and airmen trapped behind enemy lines. The men and women of the Resistance came from all economic levels and political leanings of French society, including émigrés, academics, students, aristocrats, conservative Roman Catholics, and also citizens from the ranks of liberals, anarchists and communists.


25 posted on 03/21/2019 11:21:38 AM PDT by Garvin (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.)
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To: atlana
"In no way could armed people have stopped the totalitarian power of the Nazi state,"

Another variant of the Leftist argument that an armed citizenry can't withstand tanks, planes, and drones of the modern US military.

Given Eric Swalwell's tweet about nuking fellow Americans, it began the question:

What are you intending to do to the American public that you can't do because they might start shooting at you?

26 posted on 03/21/2019 11:23:33 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: atlana

In short, yes. The Jews, like most Germans, willingly surrendered their weapons to the Nazis, then Jews and other “undesirables” were rounded up and exterminated. Take note of the fact that, among many other things, Oskar Schindler provided weapons to many Jews - a fact omitted by Hollywood in the production of “Schindler’s List”.


27 posted on 03/21/2019 11:24:23 AM PDT by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: malach

“.... savage bunch of mountain men from the Appalachians ...”

We get that way sometimes.


28 posted on 03/21/2019 11:29:30 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Campion
The fact that Hilter did not invade Switzerland supports the argument against gun control.
29 posted on 03/21/2019 11:30:45 AM PDT by captain_dave
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To: Gay State Conservative
Assuming I'm correct it stands to reason that if a similar percentage of Jewish households during the 1930s/1940s owned firearms things would have been different.

At minimum, news of such armed clashes would have trickled out of Germany in time for the foreign press to notice.

30 posted on 03/21/2019 11:31:04 AM PDT by rfp1234 (I don't watch CNN for the same reason I don't drink from the toilet.)
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To: Whenifhow; null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; 2ndDivisionVet; azishot; ...

duh, ya think?


31 posted on 03/21/2019 11:36:10 AM PDT by bitt (The pain IS coming!!!)
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To: atlana

HuffPost will not let me post this:

“Attempts at self defense provoke more violence”

What a horrible sentence. I guess women should let themselves be raped because attempts at self defense will provoke their attacker!

It might be futile, but attempts at self defense have worked in the past and kept the attackers at bay, or destroyed them totally.

Wells-Barnett observed: “The only times an Afro-American who was assaulted got away has been when he had a gun and used it in self-defense.”


32 posted on 03/21/2019 11:38:38 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: atlana

Of course it’s better to be armed, but Jews were a tiny and distrusted minority. Long before anyone heard of Nazis, the presence of anything like Jewish militias would simply not have been tolerated in Christian lands.

Europe is nothing like America.


33 posted on 03/21/2019 11:39:00 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: The Toll
"Stupid question considering “arms” is what is currently preventing a Jewish holocaust right in front of you every single day in the present."

The fact that Israel still exists today while surrounded by millions of Islamofascists whose greatest wish is to annihilate them (and who have tried but failed several times to do just that) is living proof that an armed and determined free people is much harder to takeover than helpless unarmed people.

The Judeo-Christian-God-hating, America-hating, capitalism-hating, freedom-hating "socialists" who are trying to disarm us and "redistribute" our wealth today are really no different than the earlier Marxist/fascist totalitarians who took over their countries in recent history, disarmed the people, denied them their rights, seized their wealth and property and enslaved or murdered them by the millions.

No thanks. We've already seen this playout and know how it ends.

If you want our guns, you'll have to come and take them.

34 posted on 03/21/2019 11:40:15 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: atlana
If the three million or so adult Jews in Germany, Poland, France, the Ukraine, and Hungary had all possessed and were proficient with guns, would the Nazis been able to herd them into ghettos and then into cattle cars to death camps?

Or might the Germans have been a bit more circumspect that a far more less docile people might take several Germans with them when they tried to capture and kill them?

We aren't Nazi Germany partially because an armed people is a free people - and all of us are the government, not just the folks wearing uniforms.

35 posted on 03/21/2019 11:52:01 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: atlana
[T]here was a wise man ... who used to go to the ocean to do his writing. He had a habit of walking on the beach before he began his work. One day he was walking along the shore. As he looked down the beach, he saw a human figure moving like a dancer. He smiled to himself to think of someone who would dance to the day. So he began to walk faster to catch up. As he got closer, he saw that it was a young man and the young man wasn't dancing, but instead he was reaching down to the shore, picking up something and very gently throwing it into the ocean.

As he got closer, he called out, "Good morning! What are you doing?" The young man paused, looked up and replied "Throwing starfish into the ocean."

"I guess I should have asked, Why are you throwing starfish into the ocean?"

"The sun is up and the tide is going out. And if I don't throw them in they'll die."

"But young man, don't you realize that there are miles and miles of beach and starfish all along it. You can't possibly make a difference!"

The young man listened politely. Then bent down, picked up another starfish and threw it into the sea, past the breaking waves. "It made a difference for that one!"

--- excerpted from the writings of Joel Barker, adapted from the work of Loren Eiseley



He who saves one life saves the world entire.

--- Old Hebrew Proverb

36 posted on 03/21/2019 11:54:35 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli

The point of my previous post is the fact that it might not have been a complete solution doesn’t mean it wouldn’t have made a difference. If one more Jew had lived, the effort would have been worthwhile.


37 posted on 03/21/2019 12:02:20 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: atlana

The very concept is unthinkable to the unthinking.


38 posted on 03/21/2019 12:04:20 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: WKUHilltopper

Even if they had guns, would they have been willing to use them?

I say...no. They were kept ignorant of what was going on. They weren’t even allowed radios.

Aleksander Solzheinitsyn wrote in The Gulag Archipelago a similar scenario where people were gathered up and thrown in prisons, and nobody really knew why.

Being kept in the dark seems to be a tactic used by oppressors to render people helpless, and of course to cover their dirty deeds.

We are seeing the same tactic used today via censorship which supports the demoncrats. Only their propaganda is allowed.

They also want to disarm us.

They color history so we can’t look at similar trends.

The youth is fed bs so that they are brainwashed by educational systems into thinking that socialist philosophies of oppression equals freedom. They don’t have a clue as to what freedom really is.

Today, the Israeli’s could walk into the Gaza strip and wipe it out in a day, but they don’t, because they recognize the inhabitants as their brothers. Jacob and Esau plays out there even today.

I’m thinking that if the Jews had attempted to overthrow their oppressors, it would have made them appear to be everything the propaganda against them said they were; a problem. It would have justified the Nazi position.

If they had known then that they were headed to places intending to kill them, perhaps they would have fought back, but it’s only in hindsight that we can draw this conclusion.

We weren’t there, we don’t know the rationalization or the mindset. Anybody who attempted to resist was shot dead in the street, and even those who didn’t resist were shot as examples to those who even hesitated.

Today, we are being told that holocaust never happened. Or that the number of Jews who were exterminated is over exaggerated.

I KNOW it happened. I knew some of the survivors, and not just a few. I saw their tattoo numbers, some of them had more than one. I saw their reactions to the movie Holocaust when it first came out. I didn’t understand then what was going on, until one of the women explained it to me. Nor did I understand the mental and emotional impact this horror had even 20+ years later.


39 posted on 03/21/2019 12:05:27 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: Campion
But here’s the question: Is it true?

THIS is the absolute sick,insane, warped thinking that now comes from our school systems,media,politicans and leftist indoctrination. The irony is that the Nazis,Soviets,Maoists etc used this "questioning" and "reasoning" to pacify the populations so they were much much easier to slaughter. The fantasy of the left is the mass executions and imprisonment of Conservatives ,Christians and all who defy and disobey the cause.

40 posted on 03/21/2019 12:05:32 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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