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Did Gun Control Prevent Jews From Stopping The Holocaust?
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Posted on 03/21/2019 10:40:53 AM PDT by atlana

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That's one of the reasons gun confiscation is a perfect fit in the Demagogic Party platform and DNC talking points.

41 posted on 03/21/2019 12:15:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (this tagline space is now available)
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To: atlana

https://me.me/i/how-we-burned-in-the-camps-later-thinking-what-would-7659445

Here is how the Jews felt about their lack of resistance.


42 posted on 03/21/2019 12:37:01 PM PDT by tcoxaz
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To: atlana

Human nature is full of riddles; . . . one of those riddles is: how is it that people who have been crushed by the sheer weight of slavery and cast to the bottom of the pit can nevertheless find strength in themselves to rise up and free themselves first in spirit and then in body while those who soar unhampered over the peaks of freedom suddenly lose the taste of freedom, lose the will to defend it, and, hopelessly confused and lost, almost begin to crave slavery?


43 posted on 03/21/2019 12:37:01 PM PDT by tcoxaz
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Her islam forever gesture is similar to my islam gesture. I use a different finger.


44 posted on 03/21/2019 12:56:59 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: atlana

The very first thing that all dictators (no matter what political party they belong to) do is to seize weapons from the population, provided that someone didn’t already beat them to it. Once that happens, they can literally do ANYTHING to the population, and the only ones who can stop them are their own police and/or military via a coup or assassination. Of course, doing anything that they want to the population IS THE VERY REASON FOR GUN CONTROL. The HuffPost asswipes clearly never gave that idea a single moment’s thought.

Germany herded disarmed Jews (and Gypsies, and gays and priests and anyone else who actually opposed them or whom they hated) to pits to be shot in the back of the head or into gas chambers. Well-armed Switzerland, OTOH, was left alone because of the fearsome cost that overcoming 500,000 militia (IF they could have overcome them, and there are some reasonable doubts about that) would have exacted upon Germany.

As my first college Economics professor said, “Incentives matter (and so do disincentives).” Well, simple logic dictates that if there is no disincentive to your plans to round up and murder millions of opponents, then you’re FAR more likely to attempt it than if 20% of them could resist enough to take one or 2 of your police/soldiers with them. The Huffpost is, as usual, completely and totally full of $hit.

My wife’s uncle, whom I knew for many years before he died, was a “guest” of 4 of Herr Shitler’s camps, including Birkenau, the work camp attached to Auschwitz. He witnessed his father and brother being murdered before his eyes, and lost every member of his extended family in Europe. He was NEVER without a gun on his person or in the same room with him - and since he was no dope (he spoke 8 languages and was a very, very wealthy man after getting out of the camps with just the shirt on his back), it is hard to argue the logic of being armed to at least exact a cost on someone trying to kill you.

In any case, THIS particular Jew is very well armed, and intends to remain so NO MATTER WHAT - specifically including any laws that criminalize the mere possession of firearms. I would like to say, “Never again!” but that mere wish or sentiment isn’t enough. The proper thing to say is, “Never again...but if again, then not for free.”


45 posted on 03/21/2019 1:19:15 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt, The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: atlana

In summation: “Get in the oven”.


46 posted on 03/21/2019 1:22:59 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: atlana
The record also shows that the Nazis accelerated the liquidation of remaining Jewish ghettos after the [1943]uprising.

Absolute hogwash to corelate Jews fighting back at Warsaw with increased hostility towards ghettos.

In 1944 the USA began the final push to destroy Hitlers war machine, starting with retaking France and the wholesale bombing of German cities and rail lines. This, more than anything else, resulted in manic efforts by the Germans to cover war atrocities that just could not be concealed.

47 posted on 03/21/2019 1:44:35 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: malach

See my comment on the Warsaw Ghetto. A small number of armed Jews faced the full wrath of the Nazi war machine and brought it to a halt for a full month. Yeah, they eventually lost, but the Nazis were forced to raze the whole ghetto to the ground.


48 posted on 03/21/2019 1:46:02 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: ealgeone
People say it couldn't happen here....but I'm sure there are some on the Left who would gladly send a lot of us to the camps.

It easily could happen here - it's what this last coup effort was about...

We see our country being invaded by illegals for the benefit of democrats - and we stand on the sidelines waiting for our representatives to get off their butts and stop it.

What can we do?

Make a plan. Talk to each other ... encourage 'never trumpers' to leave the party. Run against republicans who don't aback Trump. It's not just guns - we need to organize.

49 posted on 03/21/2019 2:01:12 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Gay State Conservative
"It could have simply meant that a squad of Nazi soldiers would have shown up at such households and a gunfight would have ensued...a gunfight that the Jewish residents of the household would have lost."

How about a modern example then? Here's something that is happening all over Europe but especially Germany right now: a squad of German police show up to a german muslim no-go zone. The muslims in the nogo zone fight back. A few muslims killed, a few police killed. End Result? the german police don't go there any more.

The HuffPo won't mention it, and Europe now likes to pretend the US wasn't involved in liberating Europe, but if the Jewish folk and their non-jew camp-mates or ghetto mates had been able to get more guns, sure a lot would have died, but maybe not as many, and a better armed resistance would have bought precious time until the US was posititioned to come to the rescue with the full weight and determination of the American people (with a little help from the Brits and a full compliment of Russians provided American equipment on the side). Same tactic worked back in the 1800s with the US Cavalry. The fort defended itself until special forces could get there. And so the West was settled. And WW2 was won.

50 posted on 03/21/2019 2:24:43 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: atlana

Wow. Just. Stupid.

Of course, just that alone wasn’t responsible. But certainly had a lot to do with it.


51 posted on 03/21/2019 2:45:35 PM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: atlana

We unfortunately will never know for certain.

What we can know is they could have resisted, and made the enemy pay its own price in lives.


52 posted on 03/21/2019 4:06:11 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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What about the Maccabees? They successfully rebeled against Antiochus IV, a small bunch of rebels against the greatest power in the world at that time.


53 posted on 03/21/2019 5:27:22 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: KC_Lion

And in some cases better armed.


54 posted on 03/21/2019 5:57:20 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Harpotoo
Yes! Gun control, disarm the population. Socialized medicine . . .

Today's totalitarian socialists want absolute power over our lives and our deaths, just like their predecessor socialists of the 1930s-1940s.

55 posted on 03/21/2019 6:15:45 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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Eloquently Said,
Thank You.


56 posted on 03/21/2019 7:38:49 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: atlana

Warsaw Ghetto


57 posted on 03/22/2019 5:26:14 AM PDT by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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Completely misses the benefits personal firearm ownership would have had. The idea that less than 1% of Germany's population would have stopped the rise of the Reich is absurd. Non Jewish political militias tried, and didn't. It would have had no impact on the Holocaust, other than providing more anti Jewish political fodder were there an uprising of sorts. The only option was fleeing Germany, which about 70% of Germany's Jews dis. Owning a firearm individually would have highly beneficial in that task. And possibly fatal. Of course it wouldn't have helped getting out of Europe, so most would have been rounded up anyway, but at least at a cost to Germany. Facing a smaller but adequate German force, the Warsaw ghetto held out longer than France.

58 posted on 03/22/2019 6:13:46 AM PDT by SJackson (The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself)
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To: atlana

Claptrap.

‘Face


59 posted on 03/22/2019 6:15:53 AM PDT by Monkey Face (I wonder how much deeper the oceans would be without sponges?)
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Gun ownership is a deterrent, not a plan of resistance to actual tyranny in action. If more Germans and more Jews were armed in Germany, the Nuremberg Laws and other forms of repression might not have been enforceable, and thus not enacted for fear that the brown shirts would end up with egg on their faces and more than a few of them dead.


60 posted on 03/22/2019 6:53:38 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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