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Nissan LEAF Batteries To Outlast Car By 10-12 Years
Inside EVs ^ | 24 May 2019 | STEVEN LOVEDAY

Posted on 05/24/2019 9:30:31 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Some would argue otherwise, but this is fantastic news.

Recent Nissan battery life data suggests that the battery itself may last some 10-12 years beyond the life of the car. The company sees the LEAF's reasonable life at about 10 years. Managing director of Renault-Nissan Energy Services Francisco Carranza reveals that the batteries in those cars seem to have a 22-year life span.

(Excerpt) Read more at insideevs.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; leaf; nissan; nissanleaf; tesla
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Been some time since I've kept a car 20+ years. Very few keep them that long.

But our son drives his late grandfathers 1997 Buick. Still runs well and looks good, but he maintains it himself. Not sure if it would be cost effective to pay to have the work done. He recently replaced all the brake lines and the master cylinder. A year or so back, it was the ignition electronics. IIRC the position sensor was a real dog to replace. Before that, it was the AC...

He likes the car, and it is his back up ride.

1 posted on 05/24/2019 9:30:31 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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batteries in those cars seem to have a 22-year life span.
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Seem to, mmmmmm, yeah, well I’ll get an electric car when I see them last 22 years.


2 posted on 05/24/2019 9:34:38 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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The obvious result would be a market in used batteries.


3 posted on 05/24/2019 9:35:13 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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Our older car is a 2002 Toyota Sienna. It’s starting to show it’s wear body wise, but otherwise keeps on moving along. It’s likely not worth anything for trade in so we plan to keep it till it naturally expires.

I wonder if the battery could be adapted for home use as an emergency backup.


4 posted on 05/24/2019 9:36:42 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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The company sees the LEAF's reasonable life at about 10 years.

The average age of cars on American roads is 11 years. Until I finally broke down and got my wife a 2018 Avalon, we had never OWNED a car less than 10 years old.
5 posted on 05/24/2019 9:37:34 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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But our son drives his late grandfathers 1997 Buick. Still runs well and looks good, but he maintains it himself.

If it is a Park Avenue or a LeSabre with the 3800 engine, its a keeper.
6 posted on 05/24/2019 9:38:35 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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Yeah? Well ICE engines also outlast the car by the same 10-12 years.


7 posted on 05/24/2019 9:39:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd ( Import the third world and you'll become the third world.)
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Our older car is a 2002 Toyota Sienna.

There are folks who will still give you $1,500 for a 17 year old Toyota minivan that runs.
8 posted on 05/24/2019 9:39:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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“Been some time since I’ve kept a car 20+ years. Very few keep them that long.”

Well we do. I have a 1963 Corvette Coupe that I purchased from the original owner in 1964, until recently, I had a 1987 Corvette Coupe which I gave to my oldest grandson, a 1999 Corvette Coupe and a 1999 BMW 323i Convertible. We replaced our 2003 Chevrolet Avalanche in 2013 with one of the last year’s Avalanches which now has just over 100,000 miles on it (the original one left us with 170k miles). If you give modern cars their required maintenance you can drive them for years! Of course California’s benign weather helps a great deal with keeping them all rust-free! Also keeping them in a garage when you aren’t using them helps too.


9 posted on 05/24/2019 9:40:26 AM PDT by vette6387
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They would be surpassed by other more moder batteries.why shouldnt an electric car (with careful driving and upkeep) last 50 years sans batteries? Maybe they would be built on a modular basis and just plug in the parts and batteries as needed.


10 posted on 05/24/2019 9:43:58 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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LOL
My son owned a Leaf - got it @ 2 years old - for $13K, about 1/3 of the new price.

He traded it in on a BMW electric. The beemer has a ‘range extender’ a 650cc gas engine driving an alternator....


11 posted on 05/24/2019 9:44:10 AM PDT by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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Our 1993 4Runner keeps chugging along. While my wife was in the front yard, a guy walked up to her and offered to buy it from her. We are not ready to sell it yet. It is still good transportation.

Oh, we are now penalized $ by the state of Colorado for driving an old car. It is an extra fee tacked onto our license renewal.


12 posted on 05/24/2019 9:45:32 AM PDT by dhs12345
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Well ICE engines also outlast the car by the same 10-12 years.

Correct. I have had torsion bars tear out, rear end collapses, catastrophic transmission failures, non-catastrophic transmission failures, rusted out gas tanks, busted drive shafts, and good ol' fashioned body collisions take out my cars before the engine quit. Of course, I pick 225 slant-6, GM 3800, 350 ci LT-1, for my engines of choice.
13 posted on 05/24/2019 9:45:48 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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If it is a Park Avenue or a LeSabre with the 3800 engine, its a keeper.

I think it is a Park Avenue? V6? and gets very good mileage.


14 posted on 05/24/2019 9:46:11 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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A couple of yrs ago one of my auto gnomes went to a rubber chicken diner with John Mclroy (Autoline Detroit TV show) as the speaker. The news then was battery life was something like either 2x or 4x > excpected with prices coming down dramatically via the driver of the industry at the time being Tesla. With that as a background I am not surprised with battery longevity.


15 posted on 05/24/2019 9:46:17 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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Your son is quite a mechanic. Does he get that from you?
I don’t have that skill or aptitude at all.
Some of my friends do. From what I’ve observed, it takes a great deal of PATIENCE to be a good mechanic. I don’t have that quality of patience.


16 posted on 05/24/2019 9:47:29 AM PDT by lee martell
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I have a 1996 saturn sw2 with 307K miles on it....just oil changes...tuneups...tires wiper blades and oil...looks like total junk...but runs very well. Got a 2009 cobalt xfe with 280K miles...needed a little more...new clutch...and same as above...really...most cars aside from their expensive options and “furniture” will last long time.


17 posted on 05/24/2019 9:50:52 AM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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I’m driving a 1995 Honda Odyssey with 330,000 miles.
It still runs good but some parts are unobtainable now.


18 posted on 05/24/2019 9:51:21 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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That car got absolutely savaged on Top Gear.


19 posted on 05/24/2019 9:52:27 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Coming from a long line of Scotsman, used car clansman.

Only two new cars EVER. A mid-nineties Suburban, I could NOT find a used one! And when my wife retired a Prius V.

Very easy for me, because my employer provided my wheels for about 40 years.


20 posted on 05/24/2019 9:53:20 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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