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Warning over vegan diets and brain health nutrient deficiency
Digital Journal ^ | September 5, 2019 | Tim Sandle

Posted on 09/07/2019 6:29:30 PM PDT by DoodleBob

Subheading: The recommendation that people move to plant-based diets carries the risk of worsening a brain health nutrient deficiency due to low dietary levels of choline, warns a leading nutritionist. This has been challenged by other experts.

The concern has been raised by Dr Emma Derbyshire, of Nutritional Insight, a consultancy specializing in nutrition and biomedical science, who has written a paper published in the British Medical Journal. Her research focuses on the British population.

Dr. Derbyshire is concerned about choline levels. Choline is a water-soluble vitamin-like essential nutrient, important for brain health, particularly during fetal development. The nutrient also influences liver function, and shortfalls can be connected to irregularities in blood fat metabolism plus excess free radical cellular damage, according to Dr Derbyshire. She sets out that a diet that includes beef, eggs, dairy products, fish, and chicken provides sufficient choline levels, although choline is also found in nuts, beans, and cruciferous vegetables like broccoli.

Dr. Derbyshire states: "If choline is not obtained in the levels needed from dietary sources per se then supplementation strategies will be required, especially in relation to key stages of the life cycle, such as pregnancy, when choline intakes are critical to infant development."

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TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: amazon; meat; vegan
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Given all the recent anti-meat/pro-vegan hysteria, I though this article was a welcome breath of fresh air.
1 posted on 09/07/2019 6:29:30 PM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

I don’t know how vegetarians/vegans do it. I couldn’t live without bacon.


2 posted on 09/07/2019 6:32:03 PM PDT by EvilCapitalist (It's Ok to be white.)
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To: EvilCapitalist
I have no problem with people who eat with their conscience as long as they don't shame me and my carnivore preferences. I have tried laying off meat from time to time - in the short run I was ok but I found myself lethargic after 2-3 weeks.

As for bacon, well...yea...


3 posted on 09/07/2019 6:39:12 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: BobL

Ping, sir.


4 posted on 09/07/2019 6:39:13 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: DoodleBob

I knew there was something wrong with those people.


5 posted on 09/07/2019 6:39:43 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: EvilCapitalist

I can’t live with high fat meat products like bacon and cheese.

My cholesterol levels are in the 160s and I am in the best shape of my life.

My choice to rid myself of the artery clogging foods was the BEST decision in my life.

Btw, you can get the missing choline in nuts, beans, and cruciferous vegetables like broccoli.

Happy Eating!!


6 posted on 09/07/2019 6:44:09 PM PDT by HypatiaTaught (Time to lock up "Let them eat Yellow Cake" Hillary)
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To: DoodleBob

Brains need protein, the kind found in meat.


7 posted on 09/07/2019 6:46:29 PM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: DoodleBob

True science is a friend of the Bible which also warns against not eating meat.


8 posted on 09/07/2019 6:48:06 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim 0216
Where does the Bible say that? Could it be here: Colossians 2:16 : Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.
9 posted on 09/07/2019 6:51:27 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: DoodleBob
She sets out that a diet that includes beef, eggs, dairy products, fish, and chicken provides sufficient choline levels, although choline is also found in nuts, beans, and cruciferous vegetables like broccoli.

Throw pork in there and that's pretty much my entire diet. :)

10 posted on 09/07/2019 6:53:34 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: DoodleBob

How do you determinecan animal’s diet? You look at its teeth. Humans are supposed to eat meat. We are omnivores. And the teeth are evolved to eat cooked food as well. Anything else is pseudoscientific claptrap. Veganism kills.


11 posted on 09/07/2019 6:54:10 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: DoodleBob

We are omnivores. I can see why vegans/vegetarians not want to eat meat. But maybe they should have a little chicken or fish every Sunday. It’s how our bodies are wired. Blame evolution.


12 posted on 09/07/2019 6:54:28 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: DoodleBob

Example A: Senator Booker.


13 posted on 09/07/2019 6:54:30 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Jim 0216
Or maybe here: Genesis 18:1 The LORD appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. 2 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground. 3 He said, “If I have found favor in your eyes, my lord, do not pass your servant by. 4 Let a little water be brought, and then you may all wash your feet and rest under this tree. 5 Let me get you something to eat, so you can be refreshed and then go on your way—now that you have come to your servant.” “Very well,” they answered, “do as you say.” 6 So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah. “Quick,” he said, “get three seahs of the finest flour and knead it and bake some bread.” 7 Then he ran to the herd and selected a choice, tender calf and gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it. 8 He then brought some curds and milk and the calf that had been prepared, and set these before them. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree.
14 posted on 09/07/2019 6:55:34 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: DoodleBob

also b12


15 posted on 09/07/2019 6:56:57 PM PDT by joshua c
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To: HypatiaTaught

“My cholesterol levels are in the 160s and I am in the best shape of my life.”

Hmmm. Low cholesterol numbers are associated with higher mortality.

“Baseline (2002–2003) cholesterol levels were classified into 1st (< 182 mg/dL), 2nd (182–212 mg/dL) and 3rd tertiles (212 mg/dL)....

Subjects with persistent 1st tertile cholesterol levels and increasing cholesterol levels from the 1st tertile to the 2nd and 3rd tertile levels during the follow-up period were associated with increased risk of all-cause mortality [aHR (95% CI) = 1.28 (1.18–1.38), 1.10 (1.01–1.20) and 1.16 (1.03–1.31), respectively] compared to those with persistent 2nd tertile levels (Table 2). Subjects with decreasing cholesterol levels from 3rd tertile levels to 1st and 2nd and persistent 3rd tertile levels were associated with increased risk of all-cause mortality [aHR (95% CI) = 1.47 (1.32–1.64), 1.15 (1.05–1.26) and 1.15 (1.05–1.25), respectively] compared to those with persistent 2nd tertile levels. Decreasing cholesterol from 2nd tertile to 1st tertile levels was associated with increased risk of all-cause mortality [aHR (95% CI) = 1.16 (1.07–1.26)]. These associations were prominent in groups less than 65 years old or men (S2 Table). Among statin users (n = 15,140), those with persistent 1st tertile cholesterol levels were associated with high all-cause mortality. (S3 Table).”

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5908176/

“12,815,006 Korean adults underwent routine health examinations during 2001–2004, and were followed until 2013. During follow-up, 694,423 individuals died. U-curve associations were found. In the TC ranges of 50–199 and 200–449mg/dL, each 39 mg/dL increase in TC was associated with 23% lower (95% CI:23%,24%) and 7% higher (6%,7%) mortality, respectively....

...TC had U-curve associations with mortality in each age-sex group. TC levels associated with lowest mortality were 210–249mg/dL, except for men aged 18–34 years (180–219mg/dL) and women aged 18–34 years (160–199mg/dL) and 35–44 years (180–219mg/dL). The inverse associations for TC<200mg/dL were stronger than the positive associations in the upper range.”

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-38461-y


16 posted on 09/07/2019 7:00:34 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: DoodleBob

I remember the followers of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, or some guru in the US all had anemia problems from their vegan diet back in the 1970s and 1980s.


17 posted on 09/07/2019 7:12:50 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Mr Rogers

“Although the benefits of lowering blood cholesterol in order to protect patients from premature death caused by myocardial infarction or stroke are undisputed, national campaigns to identify high cholesterol in the community need to give serious consideration to the increasing body of evidence from epidemiological studies linking low total cholesterol to an increased risk of non-cardiac mortality. Lung cancer is the most consistent cause of non-cardiac death to be associated with low serum cholesterol levels. The incidence of cancer of the colon is also strongly correlated but no association has been found for gastric, rectal or brain cancer. The general consensus is that the risk of noncardiac death increases when total cholesterol falls to < 160 mg/dl.”

https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article-pdf/18/1/52/1233369/18-1-52.pdf


18 posted on 09/07/2019 7:13:03 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: EvilCapitalist
I don’t know how vegetarians/vegans do it. I couldn’t live without bacon.

We manage. To each his own.

19 posted on 09/07/2019 7:16:54 PM PDT by untenured
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To: HypatiaTaught

Might be time to re-examine your premises

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/your-diet-and-heart-disease-rethinking-butter-beef-and-bacon/


20 posted on 09/07/2019 7:17:10 PM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance. Nemo me impune lacessit!)
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