Warning over vegan diets and brain health nutrient deficiency

Digital Journal ^ | September 5, 2019 | Tim Sandle

[YogicCowboy]

Beets (Beta vulgaris):

Rich in choline and betaine (trimethylglycine).

[BobL]

LOW CARB / KETO PING!!!

Thanks ConservativeMind for the call-out.

[p.s., anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly]

While I’m at it, there’s a request from one of our ping-ees. I don’t have a good answer, as I’m more of politics junkie, so I watch that end more closely. In that regard (politics), Nina’s book, “The Big Fat Surprise: Why Butter, Meat and Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet” is probably the best book to read.

So here’s the request for a book (or books) on Keto - anyone with ideas, feel free to chime-in.

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I was hoping to find a brief but authoritative, definitive guide book for Keto, written by a reliable healthcare author, which includes a little of all those things in it.

I already know the basics of it - eating high amounts of “good” fats, limited protein, limiting carbs to 20 net grams of carbs per day, and so forth, but I was hoping to find a good book written by some trusted, reliable health professional with just a little more depth than that. (Things like what kinds and amounts of various foods to eat to ensure you get daily essential amounts of each of the vitamins, minerals, and other required nutrients (Vitamin C, Potassium, Calcium, etc., without using dairy or oranges, and so forth.)

I know we can find tons of recipes, and lots of Keto advice online, through youtube, and other places, but I was just hoping there was a compact but thorough reference guide to all those kinds of things, available in one place whenever I need it. (Some time ago, I got a couple Keto books through Amazon, but they turned out to be a small recipe book, and a shallow “guide” which offered less than I could find through Google). I think some publishers slapped a bunch of those kinds of worthless books out quickly, to take advantage of the “Keto fad”, and I think those publishers artificially pump up their ratings on Amazon.

(Alternatively, do you know any specific web sites you trust that offers comprehensive Keto information like that?)

[BobL]

“Veganism kills.”

I just talked to a friend whose brother died of Leukemia in his early 50s. He told me that after his brother was diagnosed he was having lunch with him and he ate a hamburger. My friend asked him why he was eating meat, since hadn’t done so in 30 years. He said his doctor (who diagnosed him), said that he better start eating meat. But, sadly, it was too late for him.

I do find it interesting that the doctor knew that eating meat was the possible cause of his illness, or, by not eating meat, the doctor KNEW that he was coming up short on nutrition and better start eating meat right away. It makes me think that there is some kind of underground knowledge that is known in the medical profession, but for reasons probably due to politics, it cannot be shared openly without putting ones self (or at least career) at great risk.

By the way, it’s not a surprise to me that he paid the price by not eating meat, as animal fat (and protein) contains critical nutrients that are very hard to properly replace if you don’t eat meat. The same cannot be said for carbs, as no one has yet found anything critical for humans in them. To put it another way, one can get rid of carbs without paying a price, but the same cannot be said for fat and/or protein.

[PIF]

Another way to keep adding democrat voters ...

[MarMema]

But cannibalism is the newest suggestion for saving the planet, so not to worry. They will let us eat some meat.

[dangus]

The whole “Almond Milk” thing infuriates me. THERE IS NO PROTEIN IN ALMOND MILK!!!! Well, almost none: 0.59g. When my son was born with a milk-protein allergy (which he fortunately outgrew), I looked into milk alternatives and found out they were all frauds.

Almond milk is mostly just sugar-water. They were allowed to call their products “milk” because the villified milk industry lost a political decision. The logic was that “milk” didn’t mean mammary secretions because coconut water was called “milk” as if politicians never heard of metaphor.

[D Rider]

We had friends that were vegan. You could see it’s affect on the development of their children. Literally turned them into idiots.

[MustKnowHistory]

A ten second search yields this result:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK224629/

Glad to hear you are in good health.

[Vision]

It defiantly makes them angry and militant.

[JudgemAll]

My sources are the French Body Builder and ethno-anatomist Frederique Delavier. His books on body building are in English but he just came out in French with books on evolution and man’s quest for freedom and conquering his environment, I am sure it will come out in English eventually.

His youtube videos are in French and he talks at length about how Africans cannot drink cow milk except in places like Rwanda where cow breeding is extensive. Same with the British being able to intake much more milk than other Europeans from the Mediterranean etc.

I know certain serious anthroplogical hunters like Jim Shockey have experience with people of all tribes and all kinds across the world being all of them meat eaters. Veganism is not at all common except for religious reasons. Meat is a premium and valued foodstuff.

[spokeshave]

Then there is this:

For the last few years, Elder has lived with his wife of 74 years, Mary, at Linda Valley Villa, a 98-unit assisted living facility for seniors. The average age of the residents of the complex is 87 -- a full eight years past the average life expectancy in the United States. However extraordinary it sounds, Elder's age or appetite for life isn't exactly a unique occurrence around here, where people outlive each other instead of retiring. It's not uncommon for residents to celebrate their 106th birthdays or still work jobs well into their 90s.

That's because he lives in Loma Linda, California, a city where food and faith have worked hand in hand in cracking the code to a long life. Nestled among rugged hills in San Bernardino County, 59 miles east of Los Angeles, is Loma Linda, home to one of the highest concentrations of Seventh-day Adventists in the world. Nearly half of the town's estimated population of over 24,000, identify as followers of the church. It is also America only's designated "Blue Zone," or, according to NPR, one of a handful of communities "across Europe, Latin America, Asia, and the US researchers have identified as having the highest concentrations of centenarians in the world."

The Seventh-day Adventists are known as America's "longevity all-stars" and they largely credit their long life spans to their vegetarian diets.

[SisterK]

a doctrine straight from the pit of hell because it is self-righteous and denies the need for redemption

excellent references and points

[grania]

I first heard about “eat like your ancestors did” in the 1970s. I added more cabbage, potatoes, grapes, beets, and whole grains to my diet, and have ample meat. It does seem to have merit.

[Drango]

Great Keto site.
https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/
On the right hand side, a lot of sub lists that will drill down into narrower subjects. For example “Keto & exercise” or “scientific studies and papers”

[Jim W N]

Also this...

Maybe the most direct word in Scripture about the permissibly of and even a command to eat meat is found here..

[A]nd an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, Rise, Peter; kill and eat. But Peter [like many self-righteous today] said, Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean. And a voice spoke to him again the second time, What God has cleansed you must not call common or unclean.

Acts 10:11-15.

If God says, “Kill and eat animals”, who is anyone to say otherwise especially when God corrects the self-righteous and says, don’t call what God has cleansed not suitable to be eaten.

[GnuThere]

Do you have Dr. Mercola’s “Fat for Fuel” Ketogenic Cookbook?
I wouldn’t call it definitive, but there’s about a 70 page keto overview before he gets to the recipes.
And his website has quite a few keto articles, although that’s not its focus.

[Fungi]

That was one of the first things that crossed my mind but forgot where it was. Thank you. I will never forget it being told to me by a boyhood friend’s father.

[Jim W N]

[Songcraft]

Thanks for that book suggestion, and for posting the request.   (That sounds like a good book to get, the next time I make an order at Amazon.)

[Songcraft]

Thanks for sharing that Keto web site link.