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The Weird History of Unidentified Submerged Objects
PopularMechanics.com ^ | Kyle Mizokami

Posted on 10/09/2019 4:52:26 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

This past weekend, former U.S. Navy Commander David Fravor was a guest on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. Fravor, who was the subject of a New York Times article about his 2004 UFO sighting, discussed a spooky new sighting a fellow pilot revealed to him after they were both out of the Navy.

According to Fravor, the eyewitness was a former pilot of the MH-53E Sea Dragon, the Navy version of the Marine Corps’ CH-53E Sea Stallion, based at Naval Station Roosevelt Roads, on the island of Puerto Rico. Twice while recovering spent practice munitions out of the water, the pilot spotted a weird underwater object.

In the first incident, the pilot saw a “dark mass” underwater as he and his team retrieved a flying practice drone. The pilot described the object as a “big” mass, “kinda circular,” and he was certain it wasn't a submarine. In the pilot’s second sighting, a practice torpedo that the pilot was sent to recover was “sucked down” into the depths of the ocean in the presence of a similar underwater object. The torpedo was never seen again.

Elsewhere in the interview, Fravor reveals that a 79-year-old woman contacted him after his sighting went public. The woman explained that her father, a naval officer, was at one time based at the naval station in San Francisco in the 1950s. When she was a child, her father showed her a telegram that stated unidentified objects had been sighted going in and out of the water at a now forgotten set of latitude and longitude coordinates. The woman’s father told her, “We get these all the time, and it’s always in the same area.”

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aatip; astronomy; davidfravor; fringe; joerogan; science; ufo; ufos; usubos
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To: SunkenCiv

*ping*


21 posted on 10/09/2019 9:53:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian
No doubt. The only thing we know is:

it was there was visually seen by dozens including law enforcement eventually flew away out of the water,

but don't worry it's only swamp gas.

22 posted on 10/10/2019 4:03:10 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: Candor7

There are over a million sightings recorded. People who don’t believe, that still think we are the only ones, always will.


23 posted on 10/10/2019 4:05:38 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911
flashing orange lights,

Turn signals on interstellar space craft.......

24 posted on 10/10/2019 4:06:41 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: All

aka tick tack incident
https://www.history.com/news/uss-nimitz-2004-tic-tac-ufo-encounter
............Two fighters were diverted to intercept one of the strange objects. When they first arrived on the scene, the pilots didn’t see any flying objects. But they did observe what the lead pilot, Commander David Fravor, later referred to as a “disturbance” in the ocean. The water was churning, with white waves breaking over what looked like a large object just under the surface.

Then they noticed one of the objects flying about 50 feet above the water. Fravor, the commander of the elite Black Aces squadron who was a Top Gun program graduate with more than 16 years of flying experience, described it as about 40 feet long, shaped like a Tic Tac candy and with no obvious means of propulsion: “It’s white. It has no wings. It has no rotors. I go, ‘Holy sh*t, what is that?’”

Even odder were its swift and erratic movements, which Fravor described to HISTORY as something he had never seen in his life: “This thing would go from one way to another, similar to if you threw a ping-pong ball against the wall.”

Another Navy pilot who served as Fravor’s wingman in the air that day—and who spoke to HISTORY on condition of anonymity—gave an account very similar to Fravor’s. Now a high-ranking Navy officer, she was a rookie pilot back in 2004. She remembered being terrified, watching as the more experienced pilot tried to intercept the strange craft: “It was so unpredictable—high G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. So you’re wondering: How can I possibly fight this?”

As Fravor flew around it, he says the craft ascended and came right at his plane: “All of a sudden it kind of turns and rapidly accelerates—beyond anything I’ve seen—crosses my nose, and…it’s gone.”

As the Tic Tac accelerated into the distance, according to Day, Navy jets began launching off the carrier to try and intercept the other mysterious objects the Princeton’s radar was tracking.

While Fravor wasn’t able to capture the encounter on video, one of the pilots who took off after he landed was able to track it down. He managed to capture video of a Tic Tac, using a highly sensitive infrared camera.

Renewed attention to the Nimitz incident
While the Nimitz incident seems to have been known in naval circles and to some UFO/AAV buffs, it didn’t come to wide public attention until 2017, when The New York Times ran an article about the sighting, and released the video of the Tic Tac shot by the Nimitz pilot that day.

The Times also revealed the existence of a little-known Defense Department initiative called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or AATIP. The “shadowy” enterprise, as the Times referred to it, had a budget of just $22 million, less than 0.004% of the department’s total budget. It was said to be a pet project of then-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who had a longtime interest in UFOs.

Although the government told the Times that AATIP had officially shut down in 2012, its former director, Luis Elizondo, insisted it was still operating. Elizondo had left the program in October 2017, protesting that its work wasn’t being taken seriously enough within the Defense Department.

More eyes on the skies
Elizondo has since joined To the Stars Academy, an organization co-founded by Tom DeLonge, best known as guitarist with the band Blink-182. The group’s mission includes promoting UAP research.

Apparently they’ll have plenty to work with. According to Christopher Mellon, a former high-ranking U.S. intelligence official who is now national security adviser to the organization, and numerous pilots HISTORY has spoken with, the Nimitz incident was not an isolated event. There have been more than a dozen incidents off the East Coast—some as recent as 2015.

The Navy, which seems to have made little effort to investigate the Nimitz episode back in 2004, also appears to be taking the subject more seriously now. In late April 2019, the Navy announced it was drafting new guidelines for reporting any sightings of “unidentified aircraft.” The initiative was intended to de-stigmatize such reports and make it easier for service members to come forward with less fear of ridicule.

According to a Navy spokesman: “There have been a number of reports of unauthorized and/or unidentified aircraft entering various military-controlled ranges and designated airspace in recent years.” The Navy, it was announced, was “investigating each and every report.”

As with all things UFO, AAV and UAP, the Nimitz incident has its doubters. Some have suggested the crafts were advanced reconnaissance drones and that the churning water was caused by a submarine. But whatever the now-famous Tic Tac actually was, it’s hard to dispute that the pilots, the radar operators and the infrared camera had seen something. And chances are, it wasn’t just a big breath mint.

TAGSU.S. NAVY
BY GREG DAUGHERTY
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more swamp gas its everywhere....
multiply this X 1,000 and its where we are today...but hey swamp gas gets around.....


25 posted on 10/10/2019 4:11:00 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: Iscool

“While on the troop transport ship that was crossing the Atlantic that he was on a round, lighted object as wide as the ship was long came up under the ship...Was witnessed by a massive group of soldiers who were on deck...”

My 96 year old uncle passed away 2 weeks ago. Wounded in the Ardenesses Forest. Told me last year when he layed there on the groundand thought he was going to die he saw strange lights whipping about overhead and then going up into the sky at supersonic speeds.

He was not hallucinating and was wide awake. He thought all his life what he was seeing was souls of his fellow troops who had died leaving their body going to heaven or who knows where and as he was near death he was somehow able to see these lights.


26 posted on 10/10/2019 7:24:13 AM PDT by setter
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To: rodguy911

There are over a million sightings recorded. People who don’t believe, that still think we are the only ones, always will.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The fact is that the public does not know what these phenomena are. Perhaps the government does, or part of the government, but they certainly are not saying.

I hope that a private citizen brings one down and does a complete forensic reveal on it to the public


27 posted on 10/10/2019 4:15:59 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Hot Tabasco

how did you know you must be a space alien.....


28 posted on 10/10/2019 4:33:32 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: Candor7

You might want to read up on dr. Michael Sala or Dr. Steven Greer. Things have progressed geometrically while the rest of the world slept. So much is happening now that in five years there will be more believers than non believers. Except here of course....


29 posted on 10/10/2019 4:37:08 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911
how did you know you must be a space alien.....

No, but I did date one once........

30 posted on 10/10/2019 4:50:51 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I'm in the cleaning business.......I launder money)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I think we all did....


31 posted on 10/10/2019 5:39:24 PM PDT by rodguy911 (Maga: USA supports Trump. Home of the Free because of the brave.)
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To: rodguy911

I have read Greer, but I am equinaminous about the phenomenon.

It must be investigated.

Contrary to what most think, I believe we need to bring one down intact, do a forensic analysis and make the information gleaned available to the general public. Maybe the government has already done that, but government really botches things up also ( deal making, ideology, secrecy etc.).

We should actually have a federal , well funded Cabinet Position dedicated to solving the “mystery.” Who knows, maybe the president’s ‘Space Force” will dedicate itself to transparently doing the job ? I say transparent for one reason: It is our money that would be used and we deserve the facts.


32 posted on 10/11/2019 5:36:19 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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