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Astronauts experienced reverse blood flow and blood clots on the space station, study says
CNN via MSN ^ | 15 Nov 2019 | Ashley Strickland

Posted on 11/16/2019 10:08:42 PM PST by blueplum

"A study of 11 healthy astronauts onboard the International Space Station for six-month missions has revealed a new risk of long-term spaceflight..." (snip)

..."Reverse flow is really interesting, and we're uncertain if it harmful," Stenger said. "Reverse flow in the jugular vein could be completely harmless as the blood is simply leaving the head via one of the other venous pathways. However, reverse flow implies altered venous pressure dynamics...."

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronauts; astronomy; elonmusk; mars; physiology; science; space; spaceexploration; spaceflight; spacex
we're gonna need more robots
1 posted on 11/16/2019 10:08:42 PM PST by blueplum
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To: Moonman62; ETL

Get your ass to Mars. :^)

NASA inspector general criticizes additional Boeing commercial crew payments
by Jeff Foust — November 14, 2019
https://spacenews.com/nasa-inspector-general-criticizes-additional-boeing-commercial-crew-payments/


2 posted on 11/16/2019 10:23:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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3 posted on 11/16/2019 10:24:20 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

This question applies to this post #3 of yours, as well as #2.

Do these posts have any relation to the original article?
Please excuse me if I am missing something.


4 posted on 11/16/2019 10:46:08 PM PST by matthew fuller (Pray for President Donald J. Trump, Sydney Powell, James O'Keefe, and Thomas J. Fitton.)
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To: blueplum

Doesn’t look like Star Trek is going to be as cool as the TV show.


5 posted on 11/16/2019 11:03:14 PM PST by montag813
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To: montag813

They have to be on a craft that can simulate gravity.

For now that means rotating sections.


6 posted on 11/16/2019 11:21:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: blueplum

Wow turns out we are not capable of long term space flights.

The article listed a myriad of other issues as well.


7 posted on 11/16/2019 11:54:24 PM PST by NoLibZone (Only God's or our wrath can save the nation. Voting and posting isn't working.)
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To: matthew fuller

They’re sidebars, and a bfl.


8 posted on 11/17/2019 12:10:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: blueplum

We need to build a spinning space station, this time in a more useful orbit. I don’t know what we accomplished with a micro gravity laboratory other than how the mating habits of bees differs in zero gravity.


9 posted on 11/17/2019 12:17:50 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: blueplum

Time to bring the 1950ies back: We need spinning space stations for artificial gravity.


10 posted on 11/17/2019 2:24:33 AM PST by Truth29
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To: blueplum; SunkenCiv; matthew fuller
'A possible way to reverse the head-ward fluid shift is to apply lower body negative pressure.'

'The Russian side of the space station includes a Chibis suit that was used to test this method. The suit basically acts as vacuum-sealed pants, according to the study authors.'

"It encompasses the lower limbs in a hard enclosure that is sealed at the waist and connected to a vacuum pump to decrease the pressure in the chamber around the lower limbs to subatmospheric pressure," the authors wrote. "Lower body negative pressure sequesters fluid volume, mainly venous blood, in the lower extremities and is used by cosmonauts on the ISS as a countermeasure for postflight orthostatic intolerance."

Perhaps I can provide a little enlightenment here, as I am acutely aware of what they're speaking of in the first hand, albeit in reverse. You are aware of the heart being essentially being a four-bellowed pump. Now, while our anatomy is optimized for this planet's gravity, the heart itself isn't powerful enough on it's own to move the volume of blood our cells, organs, and limbs all need simutaneously. Our venous system is governed by a series of valves of sorts, to prevent the backflow of blood and keep it moving forward in the network of vascular highways it constantly travels as the heart beats the blood in rhythm through at regular intervals. The fresh blood is used by our cells to 'breathe' and the lymphatic system generally acts as the waste transfer plumbing to move the blood from the veins into the arteries, where it is returned to the liver, spleen, and lungs for filtering and refreshing. If the blood is sequestered in the lower limbs, it can (and will) leak through the walls and pool in the interstitial tissues, causing edema, and can permit fluid to back up into the thoracic region, which can initiate congestive heart failure. I suffer from lymphedema, venous stasis, and venous stasis dermatitis (dead red cells rising upward to the surface layers of the skin, AKA, reverse bruising) due to a vicious attack on both my lower legs by stapth infections a few years back. I wear compression stockings on both legs to keep a positive blood flow back to my heart. Sort of a reverse Chibis suit - instead of drawing blood and fluid back down into my legs with a vacuum, I'm wringing it out of the tissues to keep it from pooling down there. Swollen calves and ankles are one thing; having it build up to the point where your skin blisters and leaks fluid down your leg like a sunburn is another. 14.7 PSI, zero G, different shades of gray. Or, you say po-tay-to, I say po-tah-to........

11 posted on 11/17/2019 2:47:14 AM PST by Viking2002 (..........and Epstein didn't kill himself. Yeah, I went there.)
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To: blueplum

Earth organisms are not optimized for life off the Earth. A rational individual would expect major problems for organisms transported off Earth to zero gravity, or another planet.


12 posted on 11/17/2019 4:16:02 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Viking2002

Good explanation. Thanks


13 posted on 11/17/2019 5:35:25 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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To: Viking2002

Excellent explanation. Thank you.


14 posted on 11/17/2019 5:36:56 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul?)
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To: I want the USA back

Using this same logic, extra-terrestrial aliens would probably experience the same thing, calling into serious question the notion that UFOs are of extra-terrestrial origin. Of course, I am sure someone will explain it away — cryogenic travel, or leaping, or light speed travel not allowing time for health problems etc.

But is is one more logical data point suggesting there is no way we could be visited by aliens from other planets.


15 posted on 11/17/2019 5:39:15 AM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (What profits a man if he gains the world but loses his soul?)
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To: blueplum

Well that answers that. I ain’t goin’.


16 posted on 11/17/2019 5:44:30 AM PST by 2111USMC (Aim Small Miss Small)
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To: blueplum

The space station got blood clots? What kinda space station is this, anyway?


17 posted on 11/17/2019 1:53:27 PM PST by LouAvul
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