Posted on 11/28/2019 3:41:23 PM PST by simpson96
Energy Department wants to ‘make dishwashers great again’ with faster-cleaning appliances
“People’s time is a nonrenewable resource.”
That’s the argument pushed by the Trump administration as it moves to roll back energy-efficiency requirements that slowed down dishwashers and other household appliances, according to one Energy Department official quoted this fall when the proposal was open to response.
The department has now said it will move ahead with the rule-making change that came about with prodding by the Competitive Enterprise Institute, known for its activism refuting climate-change statistics. The group supports a new class of “fast dishwashers” that can complete a cycle in an hour or less.
Other groups had chimed in, too.
“Dishwashers used to clean a full load of filthy dishes in under an hour. But now they take an average of two and a half hours and STILL leave dishes dirty!” reads one online petition to push the energy department to action. It was promoted by FreedomWorks, a libertarian arm of a group co-founded by the Koch brothers. The petition, titled “Make Dishwashers Great Again,” is just one part of a broad campaign coordinated by conservative organizations, some with ties, like the Kochs, to fossil-fuel companies.
The rule would exempt new dishwashers from the prior energy-efficiency standards. It’s not a small market: This year, there were nearly 9 million dishwashers sold in the U.S.
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I’m in Columbia SC and I’d hit them with a light pressure wash.
Lots of dust from sitting.
Whether any work or not, no way to tell by me.
You got it.
My older sister, by three years, went away to college first and I became THE dishwasher.
:o)
Never heard of a dish washer that takes 2 1/2 hours. I do NOT use the heat dry element. I just open the door a tad.
The soap. Phosphates were removed. Ironically, NOT the type of phosphates that harm the environment. And not by law but by spineless woke manufacturers.
Go here to buy phosphate powder. Add a teaspoon to your dish powder for each wash. Eureka, clean dishes. Ditto for your clothes.
https://www.soapgoods.com/sodium-tripolyphosphate-light-density-stpp-p-1267.html
My new dishwasher has a “1-hour” option on it. I avoided it at first, thinking it was just an abbreviated session of the normal 2 1/2 hour procedure. But actually it’s the only option I use now as it seems to get everything cleaned much better. Even butter knives with peanut butter on them - that normally had to be run through 2-3 times the old way.
Or you can buy the crappy present dishwaters that do nothing to clean your dishes and you have to run them through several times.
How does a dishwasher that only has to run once use more energy then one that has to be run twice?
Go back to toilets that actually flush and gas cans that actually work and don’t cost $30. I’ve got to believe that would get even the craziest liberal to pull the R lever.
“New building flat roof apt. construction should be built so to pipe rainwater from the roof to a filtered basement storage tank to be piped over to the laundry room.“
Incredibly, this may be illegal in many areas. That water belongs to the government.
“Go back to toilets that actually flush and gas cans that actually work and don’t cost $30. I’ve got to believe that would get even the craziest liberal to pull the R lever.“
To quote myself, this would definitely turn many liberals because they are generally full of sh**, and it doesn’t flush. No one likes that.
““Dishwashers used to clean a full load of filthy dishes in under an hour. But now they take an average of two and a half hours and STILL leave dishes dirty!””
I have an old dishwater and had thought about replacing it. I had no idea these new dishwaters took 2.5 hrs to finish a cycle!
Me too. I hate the long wash cycle.
I’ve replaced my dishwasher 3 times, but those divorces were never clean...
Hope Trump pushes industry to bring them to market quick. Mine died and I’ve stalling getting a slow dud.
Fake news. The regulation rollback still allows people to buy “energy efficient” appliances. They just now have a choice to buy the kind that actually wash dishes, and do it quickly.
I thought these people were pro-choice? Or only just about some things?
Dishwasher power with TSP can still be bought for commercial applications. Any idea what the difference is between STPP and TSP?
I want toilets that actually flush.
It isn’t the soap. Dishwasher soap still contains phosphates. Dishwashing soap was exempted under the Clean Water Act, as dishwashers were a minor luxury item that wasn’t in wide distribution at the time it was enacted.
> How does a dishwasher that only has to run once use more energy then one that has to be run twice?
The same way a toilet that has to be flushed twice, or more, saves water.
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