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German WWI wreck Scharnhorst discovered off Falklands
BBC ^ | December 5, 2019 | Staff

Posted on 12/05/2019 6:37:12 AM PST by C19fan

The wreck of a World War One German armoured cruiser has been located off the Falkland Islands, where it was sunk by the British navy 105 years ago.

SMS Scharnhorst was the flagship of German Vice-Admiral Maximilian Graf von Spee's East Asia Squadron.

It was sunk on 8 December 1914 with more than 800 men on board, including Vice-Adm von Spee himself.

The leader of the search for the wreckage said the moment of discovery was "extraordinary".

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 19141208; falklandislands; germany; godsgravesglyphs; grafvonspee; malvinas; navy; smsscharnhorst; thegreatwar; worldwarone; wwi
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1 posted on 12/05/2019 6:37:12 AM PST by C19fan
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To: KC_Lion

Ping.


2 posted on 12/05/2019 6:50:47 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: C19fan

Bump


3 posted on 12/05/2019 6:59:46 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: Army Air Corps; C19fan

Amazing!


4 posted on 12/05/2019 7:00:07 AM PST by KC_Lion
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To: C19fan

Not to be confused with the WWII battleship Scharnhorst which sank near Norway and the Arctic Circle.


5 posted on 12/05/2019 7:03:39 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Just remind me never to be on a ship named “Scharnhorst” or “Blucher”.


6 posted on 12/05/2019 7:04:59 AM PST by C19fan
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Today I went to my 92yo MIL home to assist with cleaning and shopping.
The light downstairs was on when I was putting out garbage and the WW2 bomb shelter door caught my eye so I took a picture.
I showed my wife and she said she once had a Birthday Party there.
I told her her lets do this New Years Eve in it.
7 posted on 12/05/2019 7:06:01 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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8 posted on 12/05/2019 7:07:12 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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9 posted on 12/05/2019 7:11:51 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: C19fan

“The wreck was not disturbed during the operation and the Falkland Maritime Heritage Trust is seeking to have the site formally protected in law.”

I hope that efforts to legally protect this site honoring German war dead are successful - even as memorials in the public square honoring American war dead are being destroyed by mobs encouraged by weak politicians.


10 posted on 12/05/2019 7:12:14 AM PST by jeffersondem
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“Just remind me never to be on a ship named “Scharnhorst” or “Blucher”.”

Or Bismarck, Graf Spee, or pretty much any warship owned by Germany.


11 posted on 12/05/2019 7:14:41 AM PST by oldvirginian (Punishment, to be effective, must be both cruel and unusual. Otherwise it is not feared.)
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To: C19fan
Just remind me never to be on a ship named “Scharnhorst” or “Blucher”.

Neigh! The Frau Blücher has a lot of horse power!

12 posted on 12/05/2019 7:15:10 AM PST by null and void (Convicted spies are shot, traitors are hanged, saboteurs are subject to summary execution...)
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To: C19fan

She was sunk by two Brirush battle cruisers under Admiral Sturdee. Probably the only time they were employed as originally conceived


13 posted on 12/05/2019 7:24:39 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: null and void

Blücher!


14 posted on 12/05/2019 7:28:25 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: BenLurkin

Wow...look at those masts, spars and antennae. Wireless was crude in 1914 and required huge antennae. “Portable” wireless sets for infantry required three men to operate - one man 50 ft in front carrying the front of the antenna; the radio man in the middle; and a man 50 ft in the rear carrying the rear of the antenna.

In 1914 apparatus for wireless communications was still a relatively new development, having only been invented a few years earlier.

All ninety German warships were equipped with wireless in 1909. The Germans focused more heavily than other countries on employing wireless in multiple arenas, though other combatants used wireless extensively by 1917–1918. Germans were highly invested in improving wireless to disseminate information because the British had cut submarine cables to Germany in 1914.

The German Hochseeflotte (High Seas Fleet) generally avoided use of wireless once at sea.

As early as 1914 the German station at Norddeich sent out by telegraph regular weather reports in mixed text. In these the cipher clerks had not taken the trouble to encipher the letters and numbers ordinarily used for indicating the direction and strength of the wind, etc.

The station at Brugge, on the contrary, committed the inexcusable stupidity of transmitting the same telegram after having enciphered the said figures and letters. A comparison of the two telegrams gave an exceedingly valuable clue to the code used, and permitted ... a gradual reconstruction of great parts of it.


15 posted on 12/05/2019 7:31:49 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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“Probably the only time they were employed as originally conceived”

Heh. Good one. Arguable the Hood went down doing what it was intended... except the Germans were misusing a battleship s a cruiser. It is so annoying when the enemy does not play but the same set of rules.


16 posted on 12/05/2019 7:31:56 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: Jimmy Valentine

British gunnery at the Falklands was awful.


17 posted on 12/05/2019 7:58:13 AM PST by bravo whiskey (Never bring a liberal gun law to a gun fight.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Interesting


18 posted on 12/05/2019 8:22:02 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Extremism.)
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“Probably the only time they were employed as originally conceived.”

Hunted down enemy cruisers at 1st Heligoland Bight too.

Another original role was scouting for the battlefleet, which they did often. Becomes problematic when the enemy makes their own battlecruisers, which were better protected and more accurate. Then they have to slug it out in a battle line, which they were not designed to do.


19 posted on 12/05/2019 8:40:47 AM PST by Rinnwald
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks C19fan.
SMS Scharnhorst was the flagship of German Vice-Admiral Maximilian Graf von Spee's East Asia Squadron. It was sunk on 8 December 1914 with more than 800 men on board, including Vice-Adm von Spee himself.

20 posted on 12/05/2019 8:54:04 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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