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Joker is the most-nominated film at this year’s Oscars. It shouldn’t win Best Picture.
https://www.vox.com/ ^

Posted on 01/29/2020 3:32:04 AM PST by Bender2

Every year, between five and 10 movies compete for the Oscars’ Best Picture trophy. It’s the most prestigious award that the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences gives out every year, announced right at the end of the ceremony. And there aren’t any set rules about what constitutes a “best” picture. It’s the movie — for better or worse, depending on the year — that Hollywood designates as its standard bearer for the current moment.

But it obviously struck a massive nerve with audiences as well as with the industry, which has heaped praise on it beginning with the Golden Lion at Venice. Joker was programmed at most of the major festivals this fall, and Joaquin Phoenix seems all but certainly poised to win the Oscar for his performance.

--SNIP--

The year’s most controversial film (and its highest grossing non-Disney film) Joker is now the Oscars’ most-nominated film, which I find not particularly surprising but a little exhausting. I’ve never felt that this movie had much to say — it reminds me of a game of telephone, in which Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy said it first and then something got lost in translation.

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I got Joker off Netflix and watched it. It was the most depressing film I have ever seen and that says a lot since I saw Woody Allen's Interiors back in 1978 as I was dragged to it by an old gal that I had the major hots for and after that film, I never called her again.

The only good thing that comes out of Joker is when Arthur makes it on Murray Franklin's fauxTonight show and what happens happens to end the program's run--

As to Robert De Niro's playing Murray Franklin, it couldn't happen to a worse guy!

1 posted on 01/29/2020 3:32:04 AM PST by Bender2
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To: big'ol_freeper; Impy; SevenofNine; Cletus.D.Yokel; Rummyfan; Liberty Valance; Perdogg; ...
Gadzooks, Danny-- You never say... what happens to De Niro--

Yet I suspect... that's what you meant to do--

2 posted on 01/29/2020 3:32:59 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Didn’t see it. Not interested. Won’t watch it.

;=)


3 posted on 01/29/2020 3:34:59 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Bender2

It’s an outstanding movie, though terribly depressing.


4 posted on 01/29/2020 3:35:59 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Bender2
The only good thing that comes out of Joker is when Arthur makes it on Murray Franklin's fauxTonight show and what happens happens to end the program's run--

Even though the Murray Franklin show appeared to be a knock off of the Tonight Show, I think it was supposed to be more like the old Joe Franklin show. Because it definitely appears to be a local show, not national. Although both Letterman and the Tonight Show both made local jokes about the city they were based in, so I don’t really know. It’s a fictitious universe, so you just have to accept it. Hard to believe the show would be live on air though, but that was necessary for the plot to advance. Also necessary for the plot to advance is that you would have to believe that in 1981 someone was videotaping an open mic night at a very small comedy club? Who would do that? The ownership? Why? Still, a very good film.

5 posted on 01/29/2020 3:38:47 AM PST by southern rock
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To: EEGator
Dark yes, but the best film I saw last year.

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was the most fun film of the year. I'll watch them both again.

6 posted on 01/29/2020 3:40:19 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: billorites

“Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was the most fun film of the year. I’ll watch them both again.”

Agreed on all counts.


7 posted on 01/29/2020 3:45:07 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Blueflag
Didn’t see it. Not interested. Won’t watch it.

The Left and the media hate it. That was enough reason for me to watch it. Rotten Tomatoes official critics score was 69% and the audience score is 88%. Before the lefties started posting fake reviews the audience score was in the high 90's

Why the Woke establishment hates Joker

8 posted on 01/29/2020 3:49:17 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: EEGator; billorites
I've seen all of the Oscar best picture nominees except Ford vs Ferrari (because I just don't care about cars) and the biggest surprise for me was JoJo Rabbit. My ranking of best to worst nominees:

Joker
JoJo Rabbit
Once Upon A Time in Hollywood
1917
Parasite
Little Women
Marriage Story
The Irishman
Ford vs Ferrari (didn't see)

9 posted on 01/29/2020 4:00:12 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

It was a great movie, and the video link you posted hits the nail on the head.

This movie, while depressing, totally destroys the usual liberal notions of why there is violence in the world. It’s very thoughtful, doesn’t try to tell you how to think, and is very far removed from the usual tripe we see from Hollywood these days.


10 posted on 01/29/2020 4:07:50 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Bender2

“””Joker has no idea how to get out of its protagonist’s head, even for a few seconds, which makes it tonally suffocating. I checked out of it.”””

Reading about the film I couldn’t figure out how it could be more than a magnifying glass on the life of a stunted, angry 14 yr old. Took a pass.


11 posted on 01/29/2020 4:09:07 AM PST by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Ford Vs Ferrari is the only movie on the list I did see. I’m not a huge car enthusiast but this was a really fun movie. Highly recommend. I’m a woman and loved seeing all the high levels of testosterone.


12 posted on 01/29/2020 4:09:08 AM PST by tuffydoodle (God's character and moral nature are absolute, eternal, and unchanging.)
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To: Bender2

Wait...

Di Nero’s in it?

Pass...


13 posted on 01/29/2020 4:10:57 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Bender2
Decent film for being capecrap. The plot twist was nice.....SLIGHT SPOILERS.....











that opens a lot more speculation of what else was conjured up in Arthur's head to justify his actions.
14 posted on 01/29/2020 4:14:21 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: TalBlack
The SJW authors of the article above did not even get what the movie was conveying and they have the audacity of labeling themselves as film critics, lol.

Film goes way deeper than appeasing an angry, stunted 14 yr old. For starters it's a movie about a comic book character, that is a huge tell in understanding the point (Which isn't class warfare or "woe is me" angst) and plot twist.
15 posted on 01/29/2020 4:23:15 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Blueflag
Didn’t see it. Not interested. Won’t watch it.

Me either. Unlike many conservative wannabes, I try to tie my non-essential expenditures to my conservative values. Indeed, I have not been to a movie this century and we do not subscribe to Netflix or Amazon. I have not watched network news, CNN, MSNBC, or any network programming (other than sports) for at least ten years. Unfortunately, when it comes to the entertainment industry, too many conservatives are the equivalent of limousine liberals.

16 posted on 01/29/2020 4:33:51 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: EEGator
Agreed! I watched it 4 times on an international flight (round trip)...it was great...the other movies really sucked.

BTW, I also like Bad Night at the El Royale.

17 posted on 01/29/2020 4:36:16 AM PST by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
You should. see Ford V Ferrari. It's about much much more than cars.

Saw it this past weekend and was completely engrossed in the story, these characters... it is one of the better ”docudramas” to come out lately.

And I love Joker. It's an astonishing film that will be studied for decades to come. But it shouldn't win best picture. Just way too depressing for that honor.

18 posted on 01/29/2020 4:36:21 AM PST by Ciaphas Cain (Liberalism destroys everything. It's time to destroy liberalism instead.)
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To: billorites

Funny...my wife and I both watched it, and about halfway through I was thinking it was a kind of slow movie, but wasn’t going to say anything because she picked it out.

A short time after that crossed my mind, she said “It’s kind of slow.”

I thought the movie had entertainment value as an odd Tarantino-like view of 1969. It is interesting to see the effect the Manson Murders had on our society and the world. It was a shock, and changed things. I think up until that point, what was probably more unusual were people who locked their front doors at night rather than those who didn’t. I wonder if that was one of those watershed events that caused a change in general human behavior in this country.

I had two things in my life related to the Manson Murders that stick out in my mind...

When I was in the USN, I got sent to my first duty station after A School, and going to a new place as a young enlisted man is always an unusual and sometimes awkward event, especially barracks assignments. You don’t know what lot you are going to draw. Anyway, they assigned me to a room, so I walked up the flight of stairs, found the room, knocked, and entered.

Inside the room, I sure enough had a roommate. Rudely, he didn’t say a word, and didn’t even look up at me when I greeted him. He was lying on his rack, reading a paperback book, a sharpening stone on his thigh over which he repeatedly honed a Buck Knife blade slowly back and forth as he read.

That was odd enough, and then I realized the book he was reading was “Helter Skelter”!

The other thing was my younger sister who had run away from home at 16 and was living up in a Vermont hippie commune in Northern Vermont or New Hampshire up on the Canadian border where they were squatting on some guy’s land, no electricity, no running water...I think they called it “People’s Park” or something like that. One of the people she lived with was Linda Kasabian...the one who turned state’s witness against the Manson Family. Of course, I got the impression Linda Kasabian wasn’t one of them like Squeaky Fromme, but...I suppose part of you would have to wonder.


19 posted on 01/29/2020 4:51:55 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: Blueflag

I thought it sucked.


20 posted on 01/29/2020 4:52:16 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says it.)
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