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Where are all the guns and ammo purchased under Obama?
American Thinker ^ | 18 Jun, 2020 | John Watson

Posted on 06/18/2020 4:48:11 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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“we’ve got to have a civilian security force just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded”

Sounds like a great place to get a job if you are prior military!


21 posted on 06/18/2020 5:45:31 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Shouldn’t that show up in audits, no matter how corrupt Obama and his minions were?

You need to go into comedy!

Audits?! Did audits reveal where $6 billion went missing from the Department of State?

Professor Finds $21 Trillion Missing from Government Budget

If they cannot account for funds, do you think they will account for ammunition?

This is the same federal gov't that lost track of machine guns registered with them.

22 posted on 06/18/2020 5:48:03 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: Texas resident

All of these agencies and entities have security forces and many have some form of enforcement arm.

Some of them might train with actual service ammunition to make sure they’re gonna hit the bad guy and not the hostage if it’s a tight shot.


23 posted on 06/18/2020 5:49:23 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: SMARTY

I don’t think any of these guns went to Fast and Furious. The point of F&F was not to arm the Mexican warlords, they could buy all they wanted from arms traffickers. The point of F&F was to get guns purchased in the USA to turn up at Mexican Murder scenes to make it look like US arms were routinely smuggled into Mexico and probably to use an international treaty to “fix the problem of the 2A”. A whistleblower blew their cover.


24 posted on 06/18/2020 5:50:03 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The Mexican Cartels have most of them.


25 posted on 06/18/2020 5:51:23 AM PDT by mosaicwolf
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To: MtnClimber

True-but we will never know for sure.


26 posted on 06/18/2020 5:51:25 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
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To: Erik Latranyi
You need to go into comedy!

Somebody has to play straight man.

With the monetary sums you've mentioned, the amount is huge, but not huge in comparison to the overall budgeted sums. (I'm talking about your $6 billion Department of State number. Foreign aid seems like an obvious spot for kickbacks and diversion. The $21 Trillion number is a lot harder to swallow).

Here, there are goods, rather than misallocated funds. I'd think there would be so many audit trails that it would be difficult to totally cover up. But, I might be naive there. OTOH, the quality of weaponry exhibited by Antifa and the mob is still pretty low--clubs, skateboard, Molotov cocktails, the occasional knife or gun. Obama dumped billions of rounds and pretty heavy duty military gear into domestic agencies, both Federal and local police.

27 posted on 06/18/2020 5:53:22 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: SMARTY

Yes, I have heard of no accounting of weapons or ammo purchases that seem to be very large increases so we may never know for sure where they went.


28 posted on 06/18/2020 6:01:14 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Obama wanted his own Gestapo to regulate political thought and behavior. He and Hillary both publicly decried problems with the beliefs of ordinary Americans and the need for change.


29 posted on 06/18/2020 6:01:21 AM PDT by Spok
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To: MtnClimber

Antifa and BLM have them.


30 posted on 06/18/2020 6:08:47 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith.....)
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To: Texas resident

They were all shipped on FEMA trains. /s


31 posted on 06/18/2020 6:10:16 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Texas resident

And at the time, no one questioned obama.
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Why would they, they never questioned that he wasn’t a natural born citizen and ineligible.


32 posted on 06/18/2020 6:11:17 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: MtnClimber
It's still no match for private ownership.

And, the desk jockeys have no training.

They probably were counting on gun confiscation under Hillary.

33 posted on 06/18/2020 6:14:44 AM PDT by G Larry (The People must shutdown the tyrants.)
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To: DugwayDuke

Where does the info in this article come from if innaccurate?


34 posted on 06/18/2020 6:16:52 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: MtnClimber

God, I hope not.

More likely than not, he armed ISIS and the drug cartels.


35 posted on 06/18/2020 6:17:10 AM PDT by tiki (Obamagate)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I do not believe the ammo was diverted to ANTIFA and BLM.

But, do I believe a case of ammo, once opened is accounted for?

Nope.

Take one box out and the rest of the case can “disappear”. It will not be missed because it was already accounted for.

Of course, that requires IGs and quartermasters to be corrupt.

We already know the IGs were corrupt. Is it so hard to imagine Obama putting the right people in place to ensure the disappearance of ammo would happen smoothly?

Look at how they denied Fast & Furious where weapons disappeared.


36 posted on 06/18/2020 6:18:35 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is communism)
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To: G Larry

I am pretty sure that Hillary had to know about F&F since the Secretart of State would have been involved with the treaty banning the 2A in the USA. The Mexican government does not seem to have known about F&F.


37 posted on 06/18/2020 6:19:52 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: alloysteel
The “civilian security force”, which by any other definition, is the replacement for the local law enforcement officers all over the United States.

This is exactly what I've been thinking is the ultimate goal of all these "defund the police" cries. Cities will defund their police forces, crime will skyrocket, the people will demand that the government protect them -- and the federal government will ride in to save the day by providing a centralized, federal police force. They'll claim that this will prevent the "abuses of power" that local police forces were accused of. And the people will cheer (at least, half of them).

Then, whenever they want to enforce a new, overreaching law (gun bans, for example), there won't be any local sheriffs standing up & stating that they won't enforce unconstitutional laws. It'll be a federal force - and they'll enforce whatever they're told to enforce. It'll also be easier to coordinate the enforcement across the entire country, at the same time, before any local pushback can develop.

38 posted on 06/18/2020 6:28:43 AM PDT by NoLongerTrappedInNY
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To: MtnClimber
...we've got to have a civilian security force just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

I'm all for arming the 'civilian security force' with tanks and machine guns and fighter jets and bomber jets and nuclear weapons and special forces training.

If that's not what Obama meant, then, he was intending something hidden from view and devious and meant to undermine the country.
39 posted on 06/18/2020 6:32:08 AM PDT by adorno
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To: MtnClimber

Statement even more interesting due to the fact we were told when POTUS TRUMP took office, the military came to him saying “we’ve no ammo.” This repeated numerous times by POTUS, himself. Did BO lie again? The black joke never ceases in his efforts to cause turmoil.


40 posted on 06/18/2020 6:33:02 AM PDT by V K Lee ("VICTORY FOR THE RIGHTEOUS IS JUDGMENT FOR THE WICKED")
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