Posted on 06/20/2020 10:49:45 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
In the years leading up to the Civil War, many Northerners and Southerners alike wanted the federal government to take a more aggressive approach toward acquiring new territory. In fact, some private citizens, known as filibusters, took matters into their own hands. They raised small armies illegally; ventured into Mexico, Cuba, and South America; and attempted to seize control of the lands. One particularly successful filibuster, William Walker, actually made himself president of Nicaragua and ruled from 1856 to 1857.
For the most part, these filibusters were just men in search of adventure. Others, however, were Southern imperialists who wanted to conquer new territories in the tropics...
The Confederate constitution included the right to expand, and Confederacy president Jefferson Davis filled his cabinet with men who thought similarly. He even hinted that the slave trade could be revived in "new acquisitions to be made south of the Rio Grande."
During the Civil War, Confederate agents attempted to destabilize Mexico so that its territories would be easy to snatch up after the war. One rebel emissary to Mexico City, John T. Pickett, secretly fomented rebellion in several Mexican provinces with an eye to "the permanent possession of that beautiful country." Pickett's mission ended in failure in 1861, but fate dealt the South a better hand in 1863. French Emperor Napoleon III seized Mexico, and the move provided the South with a perfect excuse to "liberate" the country after the Civil War.
Of course, Mexico was just part of the pie that the South hoped to inherit. Confederate leaders also had their eyes squarely on Brazil—a country of 3 million square miles and more than 8 million people.
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That is interesting reading but worthless if used for political means. If we want to get down to brass tacks none of us should be on any of this land. native Americans were slaughtered to get it. Are you going to give everything you own to them?
Don’t answer I know it already.
And no I don’t lose any sleep thinking about what happened to the native Americans.
Or Sicily which was taken over 8 times or all the countries that Rome conquered and all of the countries that Hitler terrorized or the countries that were forced into the Soviet Bloc. nobody is giving any land back to anybody. Nobody is raising the Dead. nobody can go back in time and stop the millions of rapes in these wars. everyone has suffered. That’s life.
With all the current living monsters and monstrous countries we are wasting our time fighting against a boogeyman that hasn’t existed for over a hundred years.
And by the way are our fellow citizens. Teddy Roosevelt I am quite sure hated that Irish and Italians were coming here. I don’t want his statue taken down he did a lot of great things. It’s the way he felt at the time. I wasn’t alive at the time.
Thank You for the article CP.
Thanks
Native Americans are NOT native to this continent. According to the "experts" they came here from Asia across the Bering Straits. What about all the "Native" populations like the Anasazi, and the Fremonts, and many others who disappeared long before the white man came here? Who killed them? Other Indians, that's who. I refuse to carry any white guilt for what other "redskins" did to their neighbors any more than I will carry any guilt for what some whites did to blacks in this country before my ancestors--escaping European Indebted Servitude--came here in 1850. They came straight to the west, did not stop to pick up slaves on their way, did not pass GO and did not collect $200.
“native Americans “
They aren’t native. They came across the land bridge when Alaska and Russia were connected.
Gen. Smedley Darlington Butler
War Is A Racket
Wall St. didn’t need to change any borders to get everything they demanded.
So you are saying there is no such thing as a native outside of Eden? Discovering the North and South American continents, and settling in an empty land for many thousands of years, even being here when mastodons were roaming around, and there were ice sheets across the northern US, isn’t native enough for you? By your definition the word is reduced to uselessness.
“By your definition the word is reduced to uselessness.”
My relatives came in 1712, at what point can I claim being native?
Interesting. Makes you wonder if Lincoln really WAS trying to hold the union together or afraid that the south would overpower it and struck first.
The South lacked the finances, manpower, equipment, and industrial capacity to overpower the United States, let alone try and conquer South America or a part of it. The may have had a shot at some of the islands in the Caribbean.
I agree they did. But had they been able to expand they could’ve grown into a strong nation and the union would be sandwiched between them and Canada with no growth potential.
That would have changed in less than a decade had they succeeded in maintaining independence. I think the border states would have eventually joined them. And then the territories. Eventually the CSA would be bigger and more powerful than the USA.
I think Lincoln and Northern businessmen could see this coming. I have said in the past, were I in Lincoln's shoes, I would have likely done the same thing. The South was an immediate economic threat, and over time would likely become a territorial threat.
Many also followed the ice across the Atlantic and become the Clovis culture whose stone tools are nearly identical to those used by Soultrean culture in Europe. They were killed off by the 100 year long 10800 BC Event that ushered in the Younger Dryas Period killing them and all the mega-fauna, creating firestorms which left foot or more layer of ash over NA, Europe, SA and parts of the ME.
Also northern Algonquin speaking tribes like the Cree possess 2 unique strands DNA inherited from Denisovans - DNA not found in any of the other tribes in North America. This is indicative of a western migration which preceded the eastern one from Asia by 10s of thousands of years.
My ancestors arrived in 1640, and had little or nothing to so with the tribes or slaves.
In retrospect, I wouldn't want to be saddled with Mexico or Central America as part of my country, but chances are those countries wouldn't be 1/10 of the mess that they are today if they were part of the Confederate States of America as opposed to being quasi-narco states.
Those are your opinions.
How far back?
I don't know....look at Detroit, Chicago, other urban areas.
Well, they’re still better off there than in Kinshasa.
I never once in my life ever thought of that. The South did have very capable generals. Maybe the problem was "President" Davis of the Confederacy tried to act like a general and hampered General Lee.
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