Prescription For Violence: The Corresponding Rise of Antidepressants, SSRIs & Mass Shootings

Ammo.com ^ | 7/25/2020 | Molly Carter

[ammodotcom]

According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), a mass murder occurs when at least four people are murdered, not including the shooter, over a relatively short period of time during a single incident. Over the last 30 years, the United States has seen a significant increase in mass shootings, which are becoming more frequent and more deadly.

Seemingly every time a mass shooting occurs, whether it’s at a synagogue in Pittsburgh or a nightclub in Orlando, the anti-gun media and politicians have a knee-jerk response – they blame the tragedy solely on the tool used, namely firearms, and focus all of their proposed “solutions” on more laws, ignoring that the murderer already broke numerous laws when they committed their atrocity.

Facts matter when addressing such an emotionally charged topic, and more gun control legislation has shown that law-abiding Americans who own guns are not the problem. Consider the following: The more gun control laws that are passed, the more mass murders have occurred.

Whether or not this is correlation or causation is debatable. What is not debatable is that this sick phenomenon of mass murderers targeting “gun-free zones,” where they know civilian carry isn’t available to law-abiding Americans, is happening. According to the Crime Prevention Research Center, 97.8 percent of public shootings occur in “gun-free zones” – and “gun-free zones” are the epitome of the core philosophical tenant of gun control, that laws are all the defense one needs against violence.

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This debate leads them away from the elephant in the room and one of the real issues behind mass shootings – mental health and prescription drugs.

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[dp0622]

Strange article. It says nothing of gun-free zones in the title and yet it does admit that no one knows if it is causation or correlation when it comes to these SSRIs. And then it goes on to speak about gun free zones, which really should have been the title of the article.

Indeed with the incredible number of people that have taken these pills, I think it is more likely that these folks just happened to be taking the pills.

now many experts are saying that it is dopamine deficiency and not serotonin deficiency that is causing severe depression.

I take an snri called Wellbutrin that works on dopamine levels. And that has helped me a tremendous amount.

I took maybe eight ssris before that. They did nothing.

To be fair this was due to a brain injury causing depression and the areas of the brain that will hurt are the ones that produce a lot of dopamine.

all in all I think in fifty or a hundred years they will think our treatment of psychiatric illness was barbaric.

and it won’t take a hundred years to know that gun-free zones are ridiculous. guns don’t go around shooting themselves off. Just like hammers don’t strike themselves into people’s heads just like knives don’t luech out and stab somebody on their own

[JennysCool]

It’s so obvious. What we’re seeing now is the result of the Liberals’ successful drive to get the mental hospitals closed down in the ‘70s and ‘80s for “humanitarian” reasons, the ‘60s and ‘70s pot-and-acid hippies all grown up, Valiumed and in charge of much of government and business, their Ritalin and Adderall’ed kids and grandkids going crazy on the streets, and a hyped-up “health crisis” that allows all this to happen.

[familyop]

Every neighbor who told me that she or he was on antidepressants or tranquilizers had been a pothead or other kind of addict for years. And I’ve been around quite a while.

[RoosterRedux]

Whether or not this is correlation or causation is debatable.

That's the point isn't it.

I have had numerous friends commit suicide and can personally attest to others who have made it successfully through depression with the use of anti-depressants.

If causation cannot be established (and so far it cannot), this article is worthless.

It is far easier to establish causation with pot smoking or other drugs (including alcohol).

There is no greater causation established with antidepressants than there is with the popularity of "low carb" dieting or the growth of smart phones (i.e. NONE for either).

[BobL]

“Today, with the way antidepressants are prescribed, nearly one in four Americans will meet the criteria to be diagnosed with depression within their lifetime, and will be prescribed medications that interfere with how their brain functions.”

I still remember when I started college at ESU, it seemed like half of the people there were in the ‘psych’ program...and even then I was wondering what the need for all those ‘psych’ majors was. I’m still wondering that, but I see their political power in the way drugs are now handed out like crazy.

I’ve told my kids to NEVER get involved in the ‘mental health’ system, nor let those monsters get anywhere near their kids. If they have problems, get with us, or other family or close friends. Relationship problems - suck it up, life will be fine. Similar for at work - if they give you a questionnaire asking shrink questions, you had better answer that you are ‘happy’ every day and always ready to jump out of bed to go to work - otherwise you’ll have an army of people demanding to ‘help’ you get through life.

My only exception to the above would be people who have serious chemical imbalances...but I suspect that is very, very, rare in families with no history of it.

[KarlInOhio]

One of the problems with psychiatric drugs is the issue of self evaluation when seeing how effective the drug is. If there was a high blood pressure medicine which worked in 90% of the patients, did nothing in 9% and caused potentially fatal heart rythm promlems in 1%, you would not tell your doctor how you felt and leave it at that. Your blood pressure and EKG would be checked to see in which group you fall in. There are few similar tests to see how psychiatric drugs are poking at the brain. Most prescriptions amount to taking the pills and telling your doctor how you feel without any objective test to evaluate how your brain is working. Your mind interfers with any test of your brain.

[proud American in Canada]

There is so much about the brain that we just don’t understand yet.

The Columbine killers (I was in law school at CU Boulder at the time) were two teenage boys on antidepressants. At least one of them was. I really don’t think you’re supposed to give those brain-altering medications to teens. Their brains are still forming. I don’t think the human brain is fully mature until sometime in the mid-twenties.

I certainly stand to be corrected, though.

[proud American in Canada]

“gun-free zones”

OMG. When I’m back in the States and see that sticker on a door, usually at my dad’s retirement home, or of course, on schools, I cringe.

It’s like an open invitation. “Please, by all means! Come in, you are so welcome! Please come in and shoot us!”

Those decals need to be removed immediately. They pose nothing but a danger to the people inside.

[dp0622]

Yeah LOL it’s like putting a sign on your front door “I am in a wheelchair with no weapons and I have no dog or security system. And I have $10,000 in a safe. And a very rare Rolex”

:)

[proud American in Canada]

Thank you so much for your reply.

Even during this ridiculous quarantine, the one thing we all have as FReepers is each other. And that means a lot.

If this border ever opens again, you are both welcome to visit. I live just across the Ottawa River from Ottawa, which is actually Canada’s capital. Many people think that it’s Toronto, but no. It’s in Ottawa.

And if you visit in the winter, if you like to skate, Ottawa has the world’s longest skating rink: the Rideau Canal. There are restaurants and places to warm up and get hot chocolate. It’s really a lot of fun.

So, Bienvenue! or, Welcome!

Julie :)

[dp0622]

Wow is that nice. I have done that before for people coming to New York City.

but we Italians are just that way

everyone is family once they get here :-)

I guess Canadians are too :-)

I have to get the new license and passport I would really like to see Canada and the winter

[CrimsonTidegirl]

How kind of you and thank you, Julie!

From pictures and videos that I’ve seen of Ottawa, it looks absolutely beautiful.

Vice versa: You probably have no interest in coming to Alabama but, if you ever make it here, you are more than welcome to stay at my home. We can go to the Alabama Gulf Coast and chill out. IMO, the beach is heaven on earth. And the ocean breeze helps with the Alabama humidity, which can feel like Dante’s Seventh Level of Hell:)

Thanks for the kind reply, Julie. I have been feeling down and your post helped.

Yesterday, a cherished building that was part of my Alma Mater (High School) was destroyed by fire. I know it sounds an extremely petty thing to be sad about, but the building was the heart of our school and held many cherished memories for us. It was built in the 30’s and was very beautiful.

But, considering that our original High School burned down when I was a toddler, ourElementary School was damaged by fire ( once during school hours, that was interesting) and our High School gym was damaged by fire, another school fire shouldn’t have been shocking. We’re cursed, lol.

Of course, that’s not the only thing wrong; I guess you could say that was the last straw. Again, I know it sounds silly.

If you ever need an ear, just message me. I’m not the best at comforting people, but I’ll try:)

Thanks and have a great week!

Kristi

[proud American in Canada]

“I have to get the new license and passport I would really like to see Canada and the winter”

Anytime! Bienvenue! I’ll show you around! :) It would really be great to meet a FReeper in person. :)

FReepmail me if you’re serious. I will show you and your family around! It’ll be fun! :)

All the best,

Julie

[proud American in Canada]

Hey, Kristi. Please don’t be down. Come visit me, you and your family! We’ll have fun!

This ridiculous virus is ruining people’s lives, their businesses, their feeling of safety. I cannot stand the whole mask thing. My husband is a mask fanatic and is constantly telling me to put it back on. I usually have it hanging off of my left ear. :)

There is so much love and joy in the world. Take a moment and pray. I did, recently, and I asked God, “Why do we only have our brain capacity at about 20 percent?” And I was suddenly hit by a flash. Seriously.

What have we, as human beings, done with that 20%? Not much, except create wars, murders, violence, abuse to children and spouses (my cousin, a 6’ foot tall football player was abused by his diminutive wife; she actually stabbed him).

So I realized, that, if we can create all this mayhem with just 20%, what could we do to the universe if we had our full capacity? Probably destroy everything.

So, PLEASE take care and hug those close to you. You are a good person; I can tell. I have ESP. ;)

Come here; I’ll read your tarot cards! I am a Christian but I do dabble in stuff like that. :)

Kisses...

Julie

[proud American in Canada]

Please read this thread. It’s important.

[CrimsonTidegirl]

Thank you and I can sense that you are also a great, sincere person.

I don’t scoff at ESP; My sister and aunt have dreams about people shortly before they die. I told them to please never dream about me, lol.

Don’t even get me started about the masks. I didn’t wear one until our old RINO Governor gave in to the pressure. I wear mine under my chin:) Masks are NOT glasses friendly.

Wow, I hope your cousin divorced that psycho.

That would be interesting for you to read my tarot. I owned a deck of tarot cards in college. IMO, it’s alright as long as you don’t misuse them.

You take care too!

Kristi

[proud American in Canada]

You are way too kind, Kristi. :)

I really hate the masks too.

You and your family are welcome anytime. I would love to meet you in person. If the border opens again, I’ll go to Chicago, where I was born. I don’t know where you live, but perhaps we can all meet. It would be great! :)

Take care! love Julie

[ammodotcom]

Dead on. Too many mental health professionals are like harpies, ready to descend upon anyone they perceive as remotely discontent and push psychoactive substances down their gullet.

It’s no wonder there’s such a strong push for people to open up, share their feelings, cry when they need to, practice “self care.” They’re trying to coax potential pill customers into outing themselves.

[CrimsonTidegirl]

Same sentiment here!

You take care, too:)