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Planet Ceres is an 'ocean world' with sea water beneath surface, mission finds
The Guardian ^ | 08-10-2020 | AFP

Posted on 08/10/2020 4:46:24 PM PDT by NRx

The dwarf planet Ceres – long believed to be a barren space rock – is an ocean world with reservoirs of sea water beneath its surface, the results of a major exploration mission showed on Monday.

Ceres is the largest object in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter and has its own gravity, enabling the Nasa Dawn spacecraft to capture high-resolution images of its surface.

Now a team of scientists from the United States and Europe have analysed images relayed from the orbiter, captured about 35km (22 miles) from the asteroid.

They focused on the 20-million-year-old Occator crater and determined that there is an “extensive reservoir” of brine beneath its surface.

Several studies published on Monday in the journals Nature Astronomy, Nature Geoscience and Nature Communications also shed further light on the dwarf planet, which was discovered by the Italian polymath Giuseppe Piazzi in 1801.

Using infrared imaging, one team discovered the presence of the compound hydrohalite – a material common in sea ice but which until now had never been observed off of Earth.

Maria Cristina De Sanctis, from Rome’s Istituto Nazionale di Astrofisica said hydrohalite was a clear sign Ceres used to have sea water.

“We can now say that Ceres is a sort of ocean world, as are some of Saturn’s and Jupiter’s moons,” she told AFP.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: 1801; asteroid; asteroids; astronomy; catastrophism; ceres; giuseppepiazzi; hydrohalite; mariacdesanctis; nasadawn; occatorcrater; saltwater; science; seawater; water
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To: NRx

Ceres is a planet now? I thought it was classified as an asteroid.


41 posted on 08/10/2020 5:47:14 PM PDT by jmacusa (If we're all equal how is diversity our strength?)
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42 posted on 08/10/2020 5:49:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Eight six seven five three oh nine.)
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To: Yaelle

I just tsunamied in my pants


43 posted on 08/10/2020 6:02:47 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: NRx

Any clues as to how it got the water? Or for that matter how we got any.


44 posted on 08/10/2020 7:32:56 PM PDT by Buttons12
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To: NRx

Like Europa I guess ?


45 posted on 08/10/2020 7:50:24 PM PDT by Reily
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To: DannyTN

“This teraforming is trickier than it looks.”

You just need a Scott’s rotary spreader and about 6 x 10^23 bags of Milorganite.


46 posted on 08/10/2020 7:51:40 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: NRx
Ceres is the largest object in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter and has its own gravity, enabling the Nasa Dawn spacecraft to capture high-resolution images of its surface.

Wait, I thought every single thing with mass had gravity? Are they implying that most objects in the asteroid belt do not, in fact, have gravity?

Also, what does having gravity have to do with being able to take a picture of it? I thought all you needed for that was even the slightest bit of reflective surface? (Which is everything [minus black holes], since even fancy paint like Vantablack isn't 100% photon-absorbing?)
47 posted on 08/10/2020 8:35:16 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: 21twelve; KarlInOhio
“Ceres is the largest object in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter and has its own gravity, enabling the Nasa Dawn spacecraft to capture high-resolution images of its surface.”

I don’t know how common it is for a “planet” to have its own gravity or not. But I’m glad it does. Otherwise I guess any pictures taken of it would have just drifted off into space.
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Actually - perhaps the sentence does make sense. If it didn’t have its own gravity none of the bits and pieces would have stayed together to form an object that one could photograph.


You guys might be focusing on the wrong term. It's 'high-resolution' that the gravity enables. Everything else in the asteroid belt is only available in standard def.
48 posted on 08/10/2020 8:38:57 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: KarlInOhio

I remember back in the olden days when the media hired people called “editors” who they paid to read articles before they were published to make sure they were accurate or at least that they made sense. Now they just throw articles onto the interweb and have readers beta test them for free.

I can usually figure out what a writer intended to say in a mangled sentence but I honestly have no clue what the writer of this article meant about Ceres having “its own gravity, enabling the Nasa Dawn spacecraft to capture high-resolution images of its surface.” Aside from the fact that every object has its own gravity, what does that have to do with the ability to take high resolution photos?


49 posted on 08/10/2020 9:10:28 PM PDT by kennedy (No relation to those other Kennedys.)
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To: Malsua
Owkwa Beltalowda!


50 posted on 08/10/2020 10:25:21 PM PDT by Left2Right (Keep America Great!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Nice to see it called "planet" in the headline, alas, still called dwarf planet in the body of the article.

Yes it is - be nice to see Pluto still called a planet. If they really want to be strict, Mercury could be demoted to a dwarf planet as well since it is smaller than the moons Titan and Ganymede, which would leave 7 planets. Probably shouldn't give them any ideas.

Ceres, the beer planet.


51 posted on 08/10/2020 10:45:12 PM PDT by eldoradude (Bad robot)
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To: KarlInOhio

According to a quick search, Ceres gravity is around 1/36 of Earth’s.

So someone with a 2 ft vertical leap on Earth would be able to jump somewhere around 70 ft vertically (is that in Expanse? heh) accounting for air resistance.

Slow motion beer pours as well...

Exciting news about the water, Ceres might well be an important spaceport someday. Everywhere in the solar system will be inhabitable, because all that’s needed is energy and that’s ultimately plentiful.

Elon Musk has been doing some trailblazing, but personally I’m most excited about new propulsion advances and the first large nuclear drive spacecraft. Those will open up the Solar System!


52 posted on 08/11/2020 5:01:38 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: Buttons12

The simple explanation is that Hydrogen and Oxygen are common in the Universe, and like to get together, as H2O or as water precursors known as hydroxides. The materials the early Solar System formed out of included H and O, others contained H, O, H2O, and hydroxides. Earth is not even particularly “wet” compared to some other Solar System bodies (some moons, Uranus, Neptune, and perhaps worlds like Ceres?) We just happen to have much of our water on or near the surface.

Early Earth would not have had much in the way of free water, as the surface was molten, and most of the atmosphere is believed to have been blown off by the collision that created Earth’s Moon, but once a crust formed, the rain (reign?) of meteorites, asteroids, and to a lesser degree, comets, over the eons brought in lots of H2O and precursors. (”Type 1” meteorites are highest at ~20% water or precursors.*)

*If you want some rather “thick” reading (or at least I found it so) there is this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asteroidal_water

Hope this helps!


53 posted on 08/11/2020 8:15:21 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: eldoradude
:^) When the next interstellar bombardment arrives, basically without warning, whatever civilization arises long after will have to go through all this again, possibly with some escaped moons they'll have to make a decision about.

Meanwhile, ending a sentence with a preposition, as I just did, is something up with which we should not put.

54 posted on 08/11/2020 8:17:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: kennedy
Aside from the fact that every object has its own gravity, what does that have to do with the ability to take high resolution photos?

If you don't have gravity the pictures become very fuzzy and indistinct. Because slavery and racism.

55 posted on 08/11/2020 8:20:34 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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The rest of the Ceres keyword, chrono:

56 posted on 08/11/2020 8:21:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Paul R.
meteorites, asteroids, and to a lesser degree, comets, over the eons brought in lots of H2O and precursors.

Must have been quite a lot, seeing as most incoming these days burns up on the way in. You would think any water would dry up pretty fast...Instead we have many quintillions of gallons. Hmmm.

Thanks for the link! Thick reading often has the most protein. :)

57 posted on 08/11/2020 9:16:17 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: NRx
This is hugh....and ceres...


58 posted on 08/11/2020 9:19:35 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Buttons12

Water vapor is a combustion product in many cases. More water vapor* eventually leads (usually) to more precipitation.

*Granted that individual water molecules at great altitude likely escape to space. But other stuff gets through. And, yes, in the past there was a lot more clutter in the neighborhood.


59 posted on 08/11/2020 11:10:17 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: rarestia

Eros


60 posted on 08/11/2020 12:11:29 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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