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Installing Lenux - Zorin (need help, please)
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Posted on 09/29/2020 5:01:42 AM PDT by NachOsten

Hi, I am trying to install Linux-Zorin on ThinkPad T520 to an internal Caddy SSD (2nd HD).

I set my Bios(?) to UEFI to boot from my USB Flash Drive. Everything is dandy until I start partitioning the primary partition of the disk.

Should I delete the partitions and leave just fat32?

I do the /boot, /home, /, /var, but then it doesn't show me the /swap in the drop menu. I pick something and then is say UFI is missing.

Does it make sense and if yes, what am I doing wrong?

Thanks a lot...


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KEYWORDS: caddydrive; efimissing; linux
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Also scared I'm gonna erase my windows from the original drive
1 posted on 09/29/2020 5:01:42 AM PDT by NachOsten
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To: NachOsten

im on zorin right now...
I decided to get new HD and do a clean install, then transfer what I needed from windows. so far so good.

****make sure ya have backups of everything just in case if ya try to dual boot


2 posted on 09/29/2020 5:04:29 AM PDT by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: NachOsten

bkmk


3 posted on 09/29/2020 5:08:52 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: OL Hickory

I got an empty SSD as a second drive in my laptop.
So, I don’t understand what is the problem?

There is the Legacy and UEFI thingy in a set up which has to be harmonized I think.
How did you set it up?


4 posted on 09/29/2020 5:09:55 AM PDT by NachOsten
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Are you using GParted to do the partitioning? That will allow you to make your changes and inspect them before “pulling the trigger” so to speak. Anything can be undone up until that point. The thing is, you have to use a LiveCD or DVD to do that. Unless things have changed since I installed Linux some years ago.


5 posted on 09/29/2020 5:10:23 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If liberals had a conscience, they wouldn't be liberals.)
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- - Are you using GParted - -

I think that’s gone in this version.
Never came up while installing


6 posted on 09/29/2020 5:12:50 AM PDT by NachOsten
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To: OL Hickory

Maybe I should pull my C drive and put the empty in instead.

Just don’t get it why it gets so complicated when installing.

So many things can go wrong and pinpointing the mistake takes few years out of your life :-)


7 posted on 09/29/2020 5:15:57 AM PDT by NachOsten
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I used this method....

https://zorinos.com/help/install-zorin-os/

BUT like you, i was scared of loosing everything from windows
so, I installed zoring on a fresh clean HD, then copied’transferred
what I needed over time to zorin


8 posted on 09/29/2020 5:17:04 AM PDT by OL Hickory (Jesus and the American soldier-1 died for your soul/1 died for your freedom)
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To: OL Hickory

BUT like you, i was scared of loosing everything from windows
so, I installed zoring on a fresh clean HD, then copied’transferred
what I needed over time to zorin

Backup data copy is an excellent idea, even if you’re not installing a new OS!


9 posted on 09/29/2020 5:24:28 AM PDT by Flick Lives (My work's illegal, but at least it's honest. - Capt. Malcolm Reynolds)
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To: NachOsten

You can install your windows drive and select which to boot in the bios. I agree that not doing a dual boot is not desirable.


10 posted on 09/29/2020 5:27:46 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: NachOsten
So many things can go wrong and pinpointing the mistake takes few years out of your life :-)

Welcome to the world of Linux!

11 posted on 09/29/2020 5:29:36 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The only thing worse than COVID-19 is Biden-20!)
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To: NachOsten; rdb3; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; martin_fierro; Still Thinking; zeugma; Vinnie; ...

Tech Ping


12 posted on 09/29/2020 5:31:22 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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It is safer to make space for Linux by shrinking the Windows partition from within Windows, using the Drive Management dialog. The blank space is then called “Unallocated.”

The Linux USB will recognize that Unallocated space and offer to install there.

Linux Mint usually handles partitioning without manually messing with partitioning. I never had problems with installing Mint on BIOS-based systems.


13 posted on 09/29/2020 5:31:50 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: NachOsten
Hi, I am trying to install Linux-Zorin on ThinkPad T520 to an internal Caddy SSD (2nd HD).

I set my Bios(?) to UEFI to boot from my USB Flash Drive. Everything is dandy until I start partitioning the primary partition of the disk.

Should I delete the partitions and leave just fat32?

I do the /boot, /home, /, /var, but then it doesn't show me the /swap in the drop menu. I pick something and then is say UFI is missing.

I don't think the T520 is new enough to have UEFI. Should be standard/legacy BIOS. Should be able to just install it straight away. For booting to USB on a thinkpad, you can change boot device to USB in the bios as you have or you can hit F12 when booting to choose a device on any given startup. Just FYI.

I've never done a dual boot setup with two drives so I don't know how or if that would work. If you don't or can't do a dual boot install, you'll have to choose a hard drive to boot to every time you start the computer, hence the F12 trick. Dual boot on a single hard drive gives you a new menu that comes up after initial boot called the grub menu. I always just install alongside windows but do it the manual way. Instead of choosing "install alongside windows", I choose "do something else" so that I can choose partition sizes etc.

Regarding gParted. It's likely that or another disk management program behind the scenes on the install screen. No matter, they all work the same. Here's a good tutorial with screenshots as far as making the partitions that might help you. https://www.linuxtechi.com/zorin-os-15-installation-guide-screenshots/ - You can choose your own partition sizes of course. For linux, always format to ext4.

Found this on installing dual boot with two drives and/but it's for UEFI, https://askubuntu.com/questions/726972/dual-boot-windows-10-and-linux-ubuntu-on-separate-hard-drives#843649

14 posted on 09/29/2020 5:58:51 AM PDT by Pollard (You can’t be for “defunding the police” and against “vigilantism” at the same time.)
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To: NachOsten

Install on a USB stick and boot with it or install onto a VM. Our Java development environment is a VM with Ubuntu


15 posted on 09/29/2020 6:02:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: NachOsten; PastorBooks

I second what PastorBooks said. If you are going to dual-boot you need to defrag that Windows file — get it as small as possible so you know exactly what you’re dealing with space-wise.

My first Linux installation was a dual boot with Zorin Lite 9.0. I still have that laptop but it was the last time I dual booted. I was trying to preserve my Apple iTunes software which pretty much doesn’t play nice with Linux.


16 posted on 09/29/2020 6:14:00 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: NachOsten

Lenox, Linux or Lennox (Annie)?


17 posted on 09/29/2020 6:27:05 AM PDT by salmon76 (You can vote your way into socialism, but you'll have to shoot your way out)
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To: NachOsten

I’m on Zorin. Loved it at first. Fast and reliable. Then after a few updates it started getting quirky on me. Videos would freeze up for no reason (audio kept going though). It logs me out of everything about every 10 days (probably a safety feature). I’ve stopped the updates and am living with it but either need to do a new install or go with Mint.


18 posted on 09/29/2020 6:49:21 AM PDT by BipolarBob (He drank whiskey, Pancho'd drink the wine.)
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Don’t take this the wrong way FRiend but it seems to me that you’ve made a strategic mistake but you’re asking about tactics. Based on your knowledge and experience you should be gaining experience with partition tables, file systems, boot logic in a sandbox that if you mess up won’t have any dire consequences. If you keep going in the current direction you might get lucky and get Linux to happily coexist with your production system but it wouldn’t take much in terms of misconfiguration or false steps to brick your current system.

I’d strongly recommend getting 5 to 10 Linux installs under your belt first on some other, separate hardware or on a virtual machine.


19 posted on 09/29/2020 8:28:11 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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Gparted is super nice and I used it the other day. If it’s not on the live disk system it’s trivial to install it from there (dnf or apt) which is what I did. Under the covers it just calls all the command line utilities. Normally I favor the command line but here the GUI experience I think is superior unless you use the underlying commands quite frequently and know them extremely well. Main thing to remember is that you only do these sorts of operations on unmounted volumes and to double check and triple check that you are operating on the volume you think you are. And to back up your data.


20 posted on 09/29/2020 8:35:41 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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